Tonys Set Eligibility for CURIOUS INCIDENT, LAST SHIP, DISGRACED, SIDE SHOW & More

[Rob]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 5:01pm

Click Here to Read Breaking News: Tony Awards Set Eligibility for CURIOUS INCIDENT, LAST SHIP, DISGRACED, SIDE SHOW & More

[tazber]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 5:09pm

Erin Davie and Emily Padgett will be considered eligible in the Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role in a Musical category for their respective performances in Side Show.

So they'll be considered separately.

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 5:22pm

Erin Davie and Emily Padgett should be considered one performance just to give both of them a nomination. And if both of them end up getting nominations, other actors will be upset. Although i feel like neither of them will get a nomination now which is upsetting because they are worthy.

[Hairspray0901]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 5:38pm

I don't think erin & emily should be considered as one performance, i like that they will be eligible separately. they aren't playing the same role - they're playing 2 different roles, which happen to be attached.

though, i think they'd have a better chance of being nominated if considered together. i enjoyed their performances.

[Jeffrey Karasarides]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 6:11pm

The Tony Awards Administration Committee has also determined the following, which will go into effect in the current 2014-2015 season:

If there are at least seven eligible candidates for nomination in either the Best Direction of a Play or Best Direction of a Musical categories, the number of nominees in the respective category will increase from four to five.

If there are at least seven eligible candidates for nomination in the Best Choreography category, the number of nominees in this category will increase from four to five.

In the event there is a two-way or three-way tie for the last slot of nominations in any of the eight established Best Performance categories, both or all three of the tied actors or actresses will be eligible for a nomination in his or her respective category.

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 6:20pm

Still nothing on Sound Design?? Ridiculous!

[Unknown User]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 6:27pm

Nothing on the Side Show music?

[haterobics]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 6:34pm

As was already stated a while back in the NY Times: "Even if the sound design awards were restored, they would almost certainly not be in contention for the 2014-15 season because some Tony-eligible shows have already opened and closed and Tony voters were not expected to assess them with sound design in mind."

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/a-call-to-reinstate-tony-awards-for-sound-design/

[DCS]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 6:43pm

They also need to decide on the Side Show book along with the Score. For Score, I know that more than 50% of it has to be new to qualify and the committee actually examines measure by measure -- it's not just whether 50% of the songs are new -- they also look at revisions to the old songs.....not sure what the measurement criteria is for Book, but I would think the Side Show changes are substantial enough to qualify.....but, then again, the Administrative Committee sometimes seems to make things up as they go along! LOL

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 7:46pm

I think the Hilton Sisters are only a leading role together. And since they were nominated together last time, they shoulda been nominated together this time!

[Bucky Builder]

Posted: 1/15/15 at 7:54pm

I have to disagree. Separate seems more correct for this case.

[CapnHook]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 6:16am

Interesting that the committee went against precedent and are having Padgett and Davie be considered separate performances rather than jointly. Perhaps what prompted them to pass the rule was that the show was heavily rewritten and the roles have been altered from the original production, thus giving the committee the freedom to make this decision. I agree with it. Can't remember the last time a ruling went against precedent.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 8:15am

I think the whole idea of nominating the 2 actresses jointly is ridiculous. I didn't see the original production, so I don't know how much they have altered the roles. But having seen the revival, I think it would be an insult to those 2 women to nominate them jointly. They are each giving entirely different performances, playing different characters with different personalities and different voice types.

I also think it's silly that Alessandro Nivola is featured. He probably has just as much, if not MORE stage time and dialogue than Cooper.

[Yero my Hero]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 9:41am

Can't remember the last time a ruling went against precedent.

Last year, they ruled that LADY DAY was a play, even though it had been nominated as a musical for New York awards in its original off-Broadway run in the '80s. (Not Tonys, obviously, but still the only precedent that existed.)

I agree that I expected them to follow precedent in this case, but I am pleasantly surprised that they did not. True, now it is more likely the girls will split votes and not win, but let's be honest, shows that closed so long ago hardly ever win the big awards anyway.

They also need to decide on the Side Show book along with the Score.

Since the show is eligible in the Revival category, unless they specifically state otherwise, the book and score are not eligible.

Still nothing on Sound Design?? Ridiculous!

I thought the Sound Design decision was from a different committee. The Tony Administration Committee, which decides the categories, is different than the Tony Nominating Committee. I think.

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 9:43am

I think the reason the producers of the original Side Show petitioned for them to be considered as one, was so they could both be nominated. This time around, because they are two, they probably won't make the cut.

[LarryD2]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 11:34am

I think the Hilton Sisters are only a leading role together. And since they were nominated together last time, they shoulda been nominated together this time!

The original joint nomination was purely political. The producers of that production lobbied hard for it because they wanted both actors nominated, and they didn't think Skinner would make the list because she was so frequently out that there were many who never saw her. At the Drama Desks that year, Ripley was nominated and Skinner was not, and the producers thought that would be the case at the Tonys. Remember, the producers back then were trying to bring the show back to Broadway (or bring it to the West End, neither of which happened), and they wanted to rack up as many nominations as possible. So, they pled their case and the eligibility committee bought it.

Not so this time, apparently.

[MegInManhattan]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 11:43am

"I also think it's silly that Alessandro Nivola is featured. He probably has just as much, if not MORE stage time and dialogue than Cooper."

Agreed on your analysis, but he would have no shot in Leading against the likes of Cooper, Alex Sharp, etc. He has a much better shot in Featured and thus more potential awards to go around for the show.

[Auggie27]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 12:18pm

It's ludicrous to call the actor playing Treves "supporting." This is about star vs. non-star, and it makes the nominating process look fairly capricious. Treves is decidedly a parallel protagonist, if not the central character (for a particularly ludicrous example of the opposite syndrome, take FOXCATCHER, wherein Carell is clearly supporting to Tatum, whose story the film dramatizes, Carell the protagonist Tatum's obvious antagonist.)

As for the SIDE SHOW actors being forced to face competition separately: it's probably fair(er), and probably will mean only one of them might score. I can't believe both will be shut out.

[morosco]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 10:54pm

Having the sisters nominated separately will only split the vote.

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 1/16/15 at 11:31pm

I just think its really hard to think of them separately. They are going to be forgotten now because nobody is going to nominate just one of them. It's either both of them or neither of them and I'm sure people would rather nominate the lead in the last ship because she is seen as one over one of the twins in side show. This is why they should be together because they are worthy of being nominated but i highly doubt anybody is gonna nominate one without the other therefore, no nomination for them. It's so sad. Why couldn't they just be put together so those girls both get nominations? It's not like they r gonna win over Chita anyway.

Updated On: 1/16/15 at 11:31 PM

[JBroadway]

Posted: 1/17/15 at 6:56am

Phillypinto, pretty much everything you said so far (particularly in your last post) has been an argument for why YOU want them to be nominated jointly. Fair enough, but I hope you don't think "they are both worthy of being nominated" is an actual reason that the committee should have decided differently. True, you pointed out that there is a precedent from the original production. It's a fair point, but the precedent doesn't inherently mean that they made the right decision last time. The fact of the matter is that Erin Davie and Emily Padgett are giving 2 very different performances, and it seem that the Tony committee noticed that and decided to go against precedent.

"Why couldn't they just be put together so those girls both get nominations?"

Because that's not how any of this works. That's the logic of a fangirl, not an awards committee. It would be nice if every talented person on Broadway could get a Tony Nomination, but that's just not how it works.

In any case, between Chita Rivera, Kristin Chenoweth, Kelli O'Hara, Laura Michelle Kelly, Vanessa Hudgens, and the Fun Home actresses (whomever they deem eligible for Leading), it's likely that the Side Show girls won't get a nomination even if they were eligible together. Especially since Side Show flopped in the fall.

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 1/17/15 at 7:20am

I hope both of them get nominated because they should be nominated!!! "Because that's not how any of this works" um well it worked last time sooo.
Chita Rivera
Kelli O'hara
Kristin Chenoweth
Emily Padgett
Erin Davie
That's what I want

Who else is a leading actress in a musical? I hope the fun home girls are counted as featured. I can't see vanessa Husgens being nominated. Is laura Michelle kelly even good in neverland? I actually think my list is very possible after looking at the other nominations.

Updated On: 1/17/15 at 07:20 AM

[haterobics]

Posted: 1/17/15 at 7:46am

From someone's blog:

Sierra Boggess, It Shoulda Been You
Kristin Chenoweth, On the 20th Century
Leanne Cope, An American in Paris
Erin Davie & Emily Padgett, Side Show
Vanessa Hudgens, Gigi
Laura Michelle Kelly, Finding Neverland
Sydney Lucas, Fun Home
Kelli O'Hara, The King and I
Brynn O'Malley, Honeymoon in Vegas
Chita Rivera, The Visit
Rachel Tucker, The Last Ship

"Is laura Michelle kelly even good in neverland?"

Maybe we should let some performances have a first preview before knowing the Side Show girls are better? I realize you are working backwards from what gets them nominated, but still...

That same blog, btw, had a different takeaway from this thread:

"Curiously, they made no mention of the two ladies from Side Show being considered together as one. In its original Broadway bow, Alice Ripley and Emily Skinner made history with their joint lead actress nomination. Its unclear if such a situation is now possible for Erin Davie and Emily Padgett."

http://samonstage.blogspot.com/2015/01/tony-eligibility-revealed-for-eight.html Updated On: 1/17/15 at 07:46 AM

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 1/17/15 at 7:57am

No Tyne daly?

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 1/17/15 at 7:59am

That's true they didn't specify if they are together or not