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#2

re: Tori Amos Working on Musical!

I can't really imagine this working. But hey, more power to her, and I'd personally love to see it for my own selfish Tori fan reasons.

On another note, I can't say I'm overly pleased with American Doll Posse.
#3

re: Tori Amos Working on Musical!

I love ADP. Took me a couple of listens, but I'm in love.

It sounds like Little Earthquakes ate Pele ate Choigirl ate Scarlet's Walk.
#4

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Eeek. . a Tori thread on a theatre board. . this gay boy is clapping and giggling harder than Richard Simmons . . re: Tori Amos Working on Musical!

I'm really excited for her musical. I really REALLY hope she gets Neil Gaiman to write the book for it. They're extremely close friends, and he always writes stuff for her albums.

I, also LOVE ADP. It took me a few listens, but now I listen to it every day. . working out. . on the trains. . it's an amazing album.

~Jacob.
#5

re: Tori Amos Working on Musical!

I adore the dolls. I loooooove ADP.


I know she's been working on this musical idea for some time now, I remember her voicing her ambitions for this when Scarlet's Walk came out. Okay maybe at least wanting to work on it, but anyway.....

I'm excited nonetheless. That will truly be a masterpiece for the theatre.
I don't WANT to live in what they call "a certain way." In the first place I'd be no good at it and besides that I don't want to be identified with any one class of people. I want to live every whichway, among all kinds---and know them---and understand them---and love them---THAT's what I want! - Philip Barry (Holiday)
#6

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Wow, I'm really suprized. I hope this works!
"You know, with the right volume, Patti LuPone can make a car bounce, too...." -Wonderwaiter
#7

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I really REALLY hope she gets Neil Gaiman to write the book for it. They're extremely close friends, and he always writes stuff for her albums.

That has the potential to be one of the most inaccessible shows of all time. I don't necessarily doubt that I would find it personally interesting and of value, but I can't see a project of that nature being commerically successful unless both of them almost completely divorce themselves from their usual material.

Updated On: 5/6/07 at 11:33 PM

#8

re: Tori Amos Working on Musical!

^ True.

Of course, as long as I got to see it before it closed (in previews) I would be a happy girl.

It might be good to give Tori an outlet for the dress up storytelling stuff that's interfering with her music. (I'm being mean, I haven't heard ADP yet. I'm waiting until I'm less cynical, so I can give myself the chance to like it.)
#9

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mmm... very interesting... First Patty Griffin, now Tori...
I'm just wondering how Tori's music is going to sound when sung by someone else though... I heard some other artists covering her songs and it always sounds weird to me. She's such a distinctive vocalist, her style is somehow part of the music if you know what I mean.
"What book of rules says that theatre exists only within some ugly buildings crowded into one square-mile of New York City? Wherever there's magic and make-believe and an audience, there's theatre..."
#10

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Tori is one of those artists with a fan base that would be in "love" with an album of her passing gas.

Some of her music is good, some okay, lots, not good at all. I really enjoyed "Little Earthquakes," most of "Boys for Pele," and "From the Choirgirl Hotel." The other stuff is just boring and silly...to me. I heard ADP...don't care for it all except for "Big Wheel." Just my opinion...

-Vincent
#11

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I think this will be brillant! Her songs already sound like they should/coul be in musicals...they all tell a story, some happy and some heart-wrenching. I look forward to seeing what masterpiece she can create.

I have to admit, I wasnt in love with ADP right away, but it is growing on me! I am glad that angry Tori is back!

Updated On: 5/7/07 at 10:42 AM

#12

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This musical will bring "fan-gurlz" to a whole new level. You think the WICKED-HEADS and RENT-HEADS are bad, just wait until Tori launches a musical. Any one of us can forget about lotteries or rushes, the "Tori-girlz" will be camped out overnight everynight and try to see who can see the musical the most.

I think Tori's music is rich. Hopefully, she wil work with a collaborator who will help streamline her thoughts and make a coherent narrative. Tori ususally says that most of her albums have a narrative story (Scarlet's Walk, ADP) but I'll be damned if I can find it.

However, love Tori, love the idea.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#13

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Calling Tori's fans "Tori-girlz" is really insulting. Very few of her fans are like that. The majority are far too intelligent to ever even spell the word "girls" the way you chose to.

Tori's been at work on this for a while and it is not new news. It may be a process that hinders her composing because she may find herself forced to meet more mainstream sounds. However, it could also be an incredible creative experience and have success like "Spring Awakening". It could really go either way.

Her music invokes a lot of emotions - something that will DEFINITELY help a musical to come alive.

"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman

Updated On: 5/7/07 at 12:28 PM

#14

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"Her music invokes a lot of emotions - something that will DEFINATELY help a musical to come alive"

It's spelled "definitely"

I love you still iluv.
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-
#15

re: Tori Amos Working on Musical!

"Calling Tori's fans "Tori-girlz" is really insulting. Very few of her fans are like that. The majority are far too intelligent to ever even spell the word "girls" the way you chose to."

I am a huge Tori Amos fan and have been since the early days. There was no insult intended in referring to her ever-growing younger fan base that relates to her music. I see Tori on every tour and believe me there are teenage girls and young college age women in droves who camp out, tailgate and follow her around the country. They are fiercely devoted and at times, can be slightly irritating while she is performing as they love to scream, shout to her, yell out songs and sing along. This does not mean I do not respect them.

And, I guarantee you, they will make getting rush or lottery seats to her musical a diffcult task, the way that RENT-HEADs in the early days of RENT made it impossible to get a cheap seat.

I never inferred they were not intelligent-just highly devoted. Please don't put words in my mouth. I am just being honest.


"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#16

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I didnt know about this, but her work would be wonderful as part of a musical.

It may be a process that hinders her composing because she may find herself forced to meet more mainstream sounds.

hopefully if she has a good collaborative team, this won't happen.
The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?
#18

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Tori ususally says that most of her albums have a narrative story (Scarlet's Walk, ADP) but I'll be damned if I can find it.

Sometimes I wonder if this is because she attaches the so-called concept or narrative after writing the songs, or in the case of Strange Little Girls, after deciding that she wanted to do an album filled with covers. It's only speculation on my part, but I could easily imagine that Tori wanted to cover some songs, but in an attempt to make it more "intriguing," she attached the "cover songs from a woman's point of view" concept to her idea, picking the token Eminem song with which to take issue in order for her idea to sound semi-valid but picking the rest seemingly at random. It's hard for me to believe that Tori Amos decided to cover "Time" or "I Don't Like Mondays" because she truly wanted to give those songs a woman's voice. To be fair, I don't put it past Tori to either have that bizarre of a thought pattern or to truly buy her own ideas surrounding her music. Sometimes I cynically wonder if she actually buys everything she says, probably because I've seen few humans speak as she does.

As for Scarlet's Walk, I can see a vague concept that became overly contrived in places she felt the need to emphasize it. We shouldn't forget that it's an album about America, so she throws in lines like "lost in a place called AMMMERICA!" and includes a giant map supposely tracing "Scarlet's path" in the deluxe edition. I'm not sure I see any overarching concept in American Doll Posse. Maybe the concept would become clear if I were to read a few interviews regarding the album, but I've always thought of a concept album as something one should be able to recognize as that without the artist's help, but perhaps the artist can deepen our understanding of the intent based on what he or she says. I don't feel it should be something that needs an explicit explanation from the artist to understand.

At any rate, all of this ties back into my cynicism about any potential musical from Tori. She generally lacks a clear narrative within her songs and hasn't effectively mastered the art of the concept album, something that relies on the same abilities. Based on her prior work, she would have a very difficult time relating a story to the audience, both within the songs themselves and on the whole. I don't think it's impossible, but she would either need a great team of collaborators or to take a complete departure from her previous work.
#19

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Siamese, I agree with you. I usually need to see several interviews with Tori talking about the album to grasp what she is getting at. As for ADP, which I love, I had to hit "that site" to see several overseas interviews about the album to understand the 5 personalities and how each one sheds a new perspective on the material.

That being said, Tori writes some of the best, most moving ballads I have ever heard in my life. If anyone's music were going to get a "Movin' Out" style choreography treatment hers would prove a worthy candidate. I would love to see dance choreographed to solely her works and I think the strong emotional core would serve both dance and a storyline well. And who would not just die to see Tori at a piano above the stage, ala "Movin Out." I know Tori said she would not be featured, but what a treat would that be. I get shivers just thinking about it.

"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello

Updated On: 5/7/07 at 03:07 PM

#20

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Oh... yeah. I just misunderstood you.
"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman
#21

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I love Tori although not as much as i did as a teen I have to say (and I think concept wise her albums are messes even if I love them) but anyone else a bit weirded out that the only musical theatre people she name drops are Tim Rice and ALW? Almost as if they're still a partnership? *shrug* maybe she hasn't gone to the theatre since Evita.

#22

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She has played a few musical theatre songs in concert. "My Favorite Things" comes to mind.
#23

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She covers musical songs quite often, I have heard "Everything's Alright" fro JC Superstar, "My favorite Things" "Summertime" and a few others

I cant wait to see what she creates.
#24

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got so excited i posted twice

Updated On: 5/8/07 at 02:09 AM

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