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#26

re: Victor/Visctoria Film/stage show

No it wasn't. The movie is far superior to the stage version by leaps and bounds. I have no idea why they even decided to film the stage version, if there was one show that didn't deserve to be preserved it was that one.
#27

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While I thought that a stage version of V/V was pointless, I thought the show was better than anything else I saw that year, on Broadway. It had good choreography and great sets, and costumes, and fine performances from its cast. The fact that nothing but Andrews was nominated was a deliberate slap in the face of what the misguided nominating committee saw as the Hollywood infiltration of Broadway. I also saw it with Liza, who was as lousy as anyone could possibly be. It strikes me odd that Liza couldn't sing a note or dance a step, yet it is Julie (who was in fine voice the night I saw it, and certainly danced rings around Liza - who didn't dance a step the night I saw her), gets bashed for her performance. Even without a voice, Julie sings better than Liza. The DVD of the show is pretty mediocre; but it's a nice memento if you actually saw it live. In fact, V/V was one of the last good shows I saw on Broadway or West End. I mean, when I compare it to OKLAHOMA!, MILLIE, WICKED, AVENUE Q, and others, it seems like a masterwork!
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#28

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convinceme2...tnks for that great review.
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#29

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I agree. While admittedly, I was 12 when I saw this (and everything is good to a 12 year old,) upon re-watching the show on DVD, I enjoyed it just as much and laughed just as hard. I'm not comparing it to the original movie, that's pointless.

Is "Victor/Victoria" one of the greatest and best broadway shows ever to play on Broadway? Clearly, no. But is it among the worst, as most on this thread are making it seem? Not by a LONG shot. It is no better or worse of a musical than something like THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE or even DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS. If VICTOR/VICTORIA opened on Broadway this past season, we would have been lucky to have something that enjoyable, especially among a season of such dreck.
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#30

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I thought the stage version was painfully sad to watch.

The movie is just so much better.

(Hint, in Le Jazz Hot in the film, watch Julie stumble and almost trip when she is stepping back to link arms with the dancers, I get a little laugh out of it everytime.)
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#31

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"Is "Victor/Victoria" one of the greatest and best broadway shows ever to play on Broadway? Clearly, no. But is it among the worst? Not by a LONG shot...."

While it is not the worst show ever to open on Broadway it is much closer to the bottom of the list than the top.

It reeks of desperation: Can't come up with a new original idea for a musical? Recycle an old movie. If a piece of garbage like SUNSET BLVD can win a Tony as Best Musical (admittedly with NO competition) then quality is no longer an element. Now if V/V had opened 6 months earlier against SUNSET it might ahev one..but that's not saying much at all!


"It is no better or worse of a musical than something like THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE or even DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS. If VICTOR/VICTORIA opened on Broadway this past season, we would have been lucky to have something that enjoyable, especially among a season of such dreck..."

Well, on this point I strongly disagree. I thing DRS and the glorious PIAZZA are far better shows that V/V. Even MILLIE I think was a better show. But, as you said you saw it when you were 12 and it obviosuly made an impression on you and is perhaps responsible in part for your love of musicals. I'm not trying to say you should NOT like it or have fond memories of seeing it, but compared with the hundreds of other shows that have come before it or since, it doesn't quite rank among the greats.

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Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!

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#32

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I adore this show. I think it's wonderful. the book is really funny and perfectly adapted for the stage. the music is fantastic and even the tunes penned by Frank Wildhorn turned out to be some of my favorite songs in the show. he contributed some rather "un-Frank Wildhorn" like songs for this show including "Trust Me" and "Living in the Shadows" which are two of my absolute favorites in the show.

"Louis Says" was cut though during the run. and for the national tour and the TUTS staging the song "Attitude" was used in its place... "Paris Makes Me Horny" is hysterical. the lyrics were intentionally written to seem as if Norma is making them up on the spot and that has always made me laugh.

I disagree that the movie was flawless. there were a lot of unnecessary plot turns and some jokes that fall flat on their ass. the musical is not perfect either but has a more fine tuned plot line and just every cheesy homosexual joke/referance imaginable but it still, in my opinion, is ultimately more enjoyable than the movie... for two hours and twenty minutes I forget about everything else, and wish life was more like Victor/Victoria. the 10th anniversary is this year in October, too... re: Victor/Visctoria    Film/stage show

also when Liza did the show she sang the song "Who Can I Tell?" in place of "Crazy World" with lyrics and music by Leslie Bricusse. has this song ever been recorded? anyone know?
#33

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Liza sang it on tv, I think it was on Regis & Kathy Lee. But I don't think it has`been recorded as yet.
#34

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Okay, I love the film but I thought the stage show was done very well. Sure it dragged in points. Tony Roberts was no substitute for Mr. Preston. Rachel York did a fine Leslie Ann Warren impersonation. I thought "Paris Makes Me Horny" was one of the highlights of the show when I saw it. I found it witty and rather funny not to mention Ms. York's performance of it life was tops. I didn't care for "Louis Says" and I'm not sure why they replaced "Shady Dame Of Seville" with it. I also must confess that I missed the cockroach scene not being in the stage show.

I saw Liza and Raquel play the title character as well. I love Miss with a Z but she was less than mediocre. I was still thrilled to see her "performing" on Broadway again. Raquel on the other hand was abysmal. Nothing like putting a sex pot in that role. Anyone else remember the ads for the show when she was coming in it? It looked more like a Penthouse cover than anything.
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#35

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i thought "victor victoria" was better than "DRS" by far.
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