WOW - RENT DVD FEB. 21/2006!!!! — Page 2
#27
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:23pm
Someone needs to explain that.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#28
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:24pm
It's from the DVD release party. Let me see if I can find the video...
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#29
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:25pm
lol- Another lj icon. It's him at the Open House dvd release.
Edit: Nevermind- you beat me to it.
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Updated On: 12/17/05 at 08:25 PM
#30
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:25pm
There was a DVD release party? I'm so confused.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#31
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:30pm
www.openhousemovie.com/open/clips/OHdvdparty.mov
I recognize the addiction to being alive.
#32
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:34pm
hah! That's cute.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#33
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:38pm
#34
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:38pm
plus most of the critics, hated it.
Most of the note-worthy and respected critics gave it A's and B's. Why don't you research before you make a general, unintelligent comment.
Most of the note-worthy and respected critics gave it A's and B's. Why don't you research before you make a general, unintelligent comment.
"I would rather take a flawed movie that has as much heart and passion and life and joy and energy and truth in it as this film does over any film that is completely perfectly presented and perfectly constructed but has none of that heart and life." -Anthony Rapp
#35
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:43pm
No. Most of the critics hated it. Most of the PEOPLE who saw it hated it. Why wouldn't they? *BRINGS DISCUSSION BACK ON TOPICCC*: Hence the wayyy early DVD release date.
#37
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:48pm
People loved the movie, and people didn't like it. You should really only say how you feel about it, unless you KNOW who liked it and who didnt. That does not seem to be what's going on.
I am however hoping this DVD release date is true. Im very excited.
I am however hoping this DVD release date is true. Im very excited.
#38
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:48pm
No.
Half is not most.
Basic mathematics.
If you're going to bash something, at least have proper information, not what you *wish* were the case. I know you would've been squealing with glee if everyone hated it, because you act like a four-year-old, but that's not the way it turned out. Sorry, sweetheart.
Have you nothing better to do? Why don't you go poll all of the people who've seen it. That'll give you an activity. Pathetic. Obnoxious. Nauseating.
*eats arm*
*bangs head ceremoniously into desk*
A work of art is an invitation to love.
Half is not most.
Basic mathematics.
If you're going to bash something, at least have proper information, not what you *wish* were the case. I know you would've been squealing with glee if everyone hated it, because you act like a four-year-old, but that's not the way it turned out. Sorry, sweetheart.
Have you nothing better to do? Why don't you go poll all of the people who've seen it. That'll give you an activity. Pathetic. Obnoxious. Nauseating.
*eats arm*
*bangs head ceremoniously into desk*
Updated On: 12/17/05 at 08:48 PM
#39
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:48pm
Most of the PEOPLE who saw it hated it.
That's a pretty big generalization you've made there.
That's a pretty big generalization you've made there.
I recognize the addiction to being alive.
#40
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:57pm
While you probably shouldn't say that most people who saw RENT hated it, it's safe to say that most people who saw RENT didn't think it was a good film.
Just because you enjoy something, it doesn't mean it's good. I enjoyed the movie and I loved watching it - but it's cinematic achievments are nowhere to be found.
Just because you enjoy something, it doesn't mean it's good. I enjoyed the movie and I loved watching it - but it's cinematic achievments are nowhere to be found.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#41
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:59pm
hated it VS. thought it was a bad film
loved it VS. thought it was a good film
Very different
loved it VS. thought it was a good film
Very different
I recognize the addiction to being alive.
#42
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:02pm
I never said they were the same things.
all I said was that it's possibly to love something bad. It's also possible to hate something brilliant.
all I said was that it's possibly to love something bad. It's also possible to hate something brilliant.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#43
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:02pm
no I know you never said they were the same thing. I didn't say that in response to you...I was just saying it.
I recognize the addiction to being alive.
#44
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:03pm
I think that, munk, is something a lot of people are losing sight of in all of this -- that you can love something flawed without thinking it's perfect. There's so much mixing of all of those things going on, and it's getting ridiculous.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#45
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:04pm
yea...Em said what I think I was getting it.
I recognize the addiction to being alive.
#46
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:04pm
I know, that's why I said it.
Unfortunately, there are those that can't distinguish between something being enjoyable and BAD or miserable and AMAZING. Oh well, not everyone can be as wise as us. After all, we DID graduate from the same high school.
Unfortunately, there are those that can't distinguish between something being enjoyable and BAD or miserable and AMAZING. Oh well, not everyone can be as wise as us. After all, we DID graduate from the same high school.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#47
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:07pm
Exactly. There are people who blindly love it and think it's perfect, and there are people who love it in spite of its flaws. But a lot of the camp who hated the movie -- for whatever of a million reasons -- seems to have glossed over the fact that there are people who see its imperfections and loved it anyway. I think people are forgetting that loving it doesn't mean you think it's perfect, and that thinking it's imperfect -- or even not good -- means you didn't like it.
*head spins*
We're so wise. Great minds!
A work of art is an invitation to love.
*head spins*
We're so wise. Great minds!
#48
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:24pm
Some prominent critics liked the film, some prominent critics didn't.
Will RENT's reputation amongst critics, film historians and movie buffs grow, diminish, or stay the same? Only time will tell.
Is the film a success? That depends on who you ask. Without question it pleased many people who saw it. In that sense is very successful.
But for a film to be an unqualified success in the eyes of the studio, a [i]majority[/i] of it's reviews have to be favorable and it has to make [i]more[/i] than it's production costs in the North American market.
Yes, box office in North America is only a small part of a film's potention revenue.
But domestic box office is still accorded a great deal of importance. Some might say too much importance.
A movie that does not make a lot of money domestically, is still seen as disappointment even if it does well overseas. Why? Because some industry insiders see domestic box office as an indicator of how well DVD sales will go.
Will RENT's reputation amongst critics, film historians and movie buffs grow, diminish, or stay the same? Only time will tell.
Is the film a success? That depends on who you ask. Without question it pleased many people who saw it. In that sense is very successful.
But for a film to be an unqualified success in the eyes of the studio, a [i]majority[/i] of it's reviews have to be favorable and it has to make [i]more[/i] than it's production costs in the North American market.
Yes, box office in North America is only a small part of a film's potention revenue.
But domestic box office is still accorded a great deal of importance. Some might say too much importance.
A movie that does not make a lot of money domestically, is still seen as disappointment even if it does well overseas. Why? Because some industry insiders see domestic box office as an indicator of how well DVD sales will go.
#49
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:24pm
Can I be an honorary graduate of your high school, Em and Munk? XD I agree, damnit. I know I've said something similar to that sometime through these tiring debates.
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Updated On: 12/17/05 at 09:24 PM
#50
Posted: 12/17/05 at 9:37pm
You guys have hit the nail on the button and like I've said in the past...I adore the Phantom movie. I still laugh at the bad lip synching and voguing and what not, but I still love it, for it's several-many flaws.
And I really don't understand not only here on BWW but in my local paper and many other places have been saying RENT got awful reviews...since when is approximately 47% good reviews awful? Unless people expected it to do better but many here have expressed that wasn't the case w/ them...I would say it got mixed reviews, most of the positives seemed to adore it, most of the negatives seemed to detest it. I don't understand why everyone's acting like it was 90% bad reviews. Am I gonna say it was a hit? Of course not. Do you want to say financially it's a flop? Fine, it would be nice to wait for post DVD sales to fully say but I suppose I wouldn't argue w/ that now.
I think the general consensus when the movie is viewed rationally, its not perfect, its flawed, but its not the worst thing ever. It has some good aspects and some flawed aspects. Some of us love it, some of us hate it, others fall in the middle. So what? We all have opinions and enjoyments. Is there really anyone who doesn't love a flawed piece?
And I really don't understand not only here on BWW but in my local paper and many other places have been saying RENT got awful reviews...since when is approximately 47% good reviews awful? Unless people expected it to do better but many here have expressed that wasn't the case w/ them...I would say it got mixed reviews, most of the positives seemed to adore it, most of the negatives seemed to detest it. I don't understand why everyone's acting like it was 90% bad reviews. Am I gonna say it was a hit? Of course not. Do you want to say financially it's a flop? Fine, it would be nice to wait for post DVD sales to fully say but I suppose I wouldn't argue w/ that now.
I think the general consensus when the movie is viewed rationally, its not perfect, its flawed, but its not the worst thing ever. It has some good aspects and some flawed aspects. Some of us love it, some of us hate it, others fall in the middle. So what? We all have opinions and enjoyments. Is there really anyone who doesn't love a flawed piece?
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