Weird POTO video....- Page 2

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 12/31/05 at 2:35pm

i cant watch this video on my comp with the slow internet, so is this the one with the phantom in the metal mask, and ends with sarah screaming as fake blood covers the screeen? if it is, i love it, it is hilarious!!! :)

[Sant]

Posted: 1/1/06 at 7:55am

The mask was originally supposed to be a full face mask like the one seen on the video. It wasn't until Michael Crawford saw the late Maria Bjornson's set and costume designs HE suggested the mask to be changed to a 'half-face' mask. And by then they had already created the Phantom logo with the COMPELTE mask and it could no longer be changed.

"The Music Of The Night" video is wonderful to watch as it was shot in the actual stage sets and is pretty much done as it is in the show (except for a couple of close-ups of course).

[Kristen_0509]

Posted: 1/1/06 at 5:34pm

Oh that video

[Conor]

Posted: 1/1/06 at 5:46pm

Does anyone have links to the other Phantom music videos? I'm too lazy to go find my phantom dvd...

[michelle4]

Posted: 1/1/06 at 5:46pm

I actually enjoyed that more the the recent movie!!!

Posted: 1/1/06 at 6:46pm

I know I have the video with this song in it. OMG Steve Harly lol I don't know what to say hahaha.

[Sally]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 1:42am

"But, back on track, that video is a representation of the rock opera version of Phantom of the Opera. It was a very very different show. All of the romantic stuff, like Music of the Night and All I Ask of You, was written afterward. Phantom is, believably, the only song kept from that earlier version: which leads me to say: "OMG! WHAT DO THE CUT SONGS SOUND LIKE!!!"

You're right about the rock version being changed to what we know now, but I'm not so sure about all the romantic stuff being written later. Colm Wilkinson sang "Music of the Night" at the Sydmonton performance of Act I as it then existed---In 1985. I'm pretty sure the video was made later.

Tom Atkins has researched the Sydmonton performance and says this, "The workshop lyrics were also entirely thought up by Richard Stilgoe, without any help from Charles Hart, who didn't join the project until after the workshop, when it was recognised that a different perspective was needed. This is why the lyrics often seem quite different, and in places more complicated, to the modern lyrics. This is especially evident in songs such as "All I Ask Of You" and "Music of the Night". However, many of Stilgoe's original titles such as "Music of the Night" and "Point of no Return" remained and Hart just built on top of what was already established.


The site is not large but contains
Introduction

Cast & Creative Credits

Scenes & Musical Numbers

The Original Lyrics

Screenshots

The Old & The New:
A Comparison

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 3:06am

I'm a friend of Tom's, from ages back, but where is this website? Do you have a link? Or is the information at his Ken Hill's Phantom page?

Evidence of the different lyrics is from the single releases from Phantom of the Opera. The title song, from the video we just saw, is a lot more weird than the eventual lyrics chosen. The sleeve of the record gives no credit to Hart, assumingly because he wasn't involved. Who is Mike Batt? and how did he get involved with the work? Did he help with any other lyrics?

The Music of the Night is also very strange. The opening verse doesn't have the brief instrumental: it's filled in with the lyrics "helpless to resist the notes I write / for I compose the music of the night". Besides subtle changes in the lyrics, as we now know them, there are whole sets of verses that are completely different: i.e. "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth / And the truth isn't what you want to see / In the dark it is easy to be pretend / That the truth is what it ought to be" and a nice metaphor about music being "hard a lightning, soft as candlelight." In some ways, I prefer these lyrics... but it's more about the Phantom and his love for music, in general, compaired to romancing Christine. Also, which makes it more interesting, Hart gets credit on these for the Crawford single. I wonder why they changed the lyrics? What's wrong with the ones they had?

I know this changes the topic but I've always been (slightly) interested in the lyrical revisions for Phantom. If you're familiar with the current show, listen to the Original London Cast: some of the first lyrics are really interesting. Compair that version of "Think of Me" to the one on the TER Release with Graham Bickley. The lyrics have been radically altered. I'll make specific examples like i.e. "We never said our love was evergreen / Or as unchanging as the sea" becoming "On that day, that not so distant day, when you are far away and free." Or "flowers fade / the fruits of summer fade / they have their seasons, so do we" which is not to be heard on the OLC. The new ones are a vast improvement, and a hybrid was used for the movie. In Angel of Music, Meg's lines become "I hear a voice in the darkness / Distant through all the applause / I hear a voice in the... (can't remember the line).. and the words weren't yours." The "passing bells and sculpted angels" bit became "three long years..." a more direct comment on the memory of her father. Little gramatical errors in songs have been corrected, as one would expect, but over-time the lyrics have been gradually re-written - almost entirely insome songs - altering, many times, the complete meaning of the song. I find this process fascinating, and I don't recall any discussion on it in any message-forum I've attended...

Also, where can I find a copy of the song that escaped hte movie? "No One Would Listen". I'm curious to see what the lyrics are like. And I've been looking for a copy, on CD, of Kiri Te Kanawa's "Heart is Slow to Learn" which was written for the sequel to Phantom. How I yeaaaarrrn to hear that song again

I appreciate any info...

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 3:37am

You mean this?
http://www.tomatkins.co.uk/phantom/

[rockfenris2005]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 3:42am

Yeah, I just found it and have been reading it for the last half-hour. I don't know why I never knew about this. It's like I've been living under a rock and someone told me Princess Di was dead

The original lyrics for Music of the Night are very very creepy

[Link Larkin Wanabe]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 3:44am

Wow...this video sure puts the "80's" in "80's Megamusical"

Akiva

[MissMonika]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 4:40am

um....wow. can't help but laugh at the Phantom. gosh darn awful!!

[BroadwayRandy0711]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 6:12am

Sarah Brightman reminded me so much of Elizabeth Taylor for some reason. This looks like a raelly bad 80's music video. Very interesting.

[elphieisperky]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 4:04pm

I'm still laughing at that Phantom. Wow. That's all I can say.

As for the rest of the video, interesting. And strange.

[Sant]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 4:22pm

Rockinferis:

They've also changed Carlotta's lyrics in "Prima Donna" slightly. In the middle of the song she originally sang
"O, fortunata! Non ancor abbandonata!" which was changed to an english line "Deposed! Rejected! Reappraised and re-elected!"

The new english lyrics were changed somewhere in the late 80s, the new lyrics can be heard on the Canadian Cast Highlights cd.

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 5:21pm

quote:
The Music of the Night is also very strange. The opening verse doesn't have the brief instrumental: it's filled in with the lyrics "helpless to resist the notes I write / for I compose the music of the night". Besides subtle changes in the lyrics, as we now know them, there are whole sets of verses that are completely different: i.e. "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth / And the truth isn't what you want to see / In the dark it is easy to be pretend / That the truth is what it ought to be" and a nice metaphor about music being "hard a lightning, soft as candlelight."

I adore that version! Those lyrics are so gorgeous. I much prefer it to what is now used in the show.

quote:
Also, where can I find a copy of the song that escaped hte movie? "No One Would Listen". I'm curious to see what the lyrics are like.

I have that uploaded onto my website, available to download here: http://homepages.nyu.edu/~blk211/No%20One%20Would%20Listen.mp3

[JulianHookbucks]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 5:31pm

In regards to the Egyptian outfit Christine is wearing... it says in the opening poster for the new opera at the Grande Paris Opera House "Christine Daae IN CLEOPATRA" She's playing Cleopatra... but I definitely HATE the fake blood... and Raoul's mullet...

[iwearshoes]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 5:44pm

I owned that video with all of the really bad music videos on it! I grew up watching that....I hate to say it but when i was little this vhs tape introduced me to theater!

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 6:48pm

"Measure after measure, an instrument of pleasure" cracks me up. I'm glad I never had to hear Michael Crawford sing it.

[Cape Twirl of Doom]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 6:54pm

"Measure after measure, an instrument of pleasure" cracks me up. I'm glad I never had to hear Michael Crawford sing it.

"A treasure house of passion and delight." lol

[ALWrules]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 9:52pm

WTF

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:16pm

Exactly.

Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:52pm

hahaha ya..
when I was going though the bonus features on the poto movie special features and I first saw that video.. i waslike
NO
EFFIN
WAY!!
then they had steve harley talking about how he was there for like a minute.. lol.. and iwaslike CUZ YOU SUCKED YOU BUM!

no, no one has to explain to me again that it was originally gonna be some rock thing.

yesss that very small clip of the last parts of MOTN..the "Measure after measure, an instrument of pleasure.." bla bla bla part.. ya thats pretty interesting..

ya I found that site awhile back when it was first created [got a notification]

yesss I adore the MC video.. I used to have it but idk what happened to it o well.

the sad thing is a lot of people hate Micheal Crawford.. ::tear:: oh well.

eeh nothing else rlly to say.
LongXLiveXErik Updated On: 1/2/06 at 10:52 PM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:53pm

Was that English?

[iwearshoes]

Posted: 1/2/06 at 10:55pm

you know, I don't think it was!