What Tony award season....
#50re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: What Tony award season....
Posted: 10/9/03 at 3:58pm
I believe a lot of what was exciting in Les Miz was the lushness of the score. On the other hand, I found the story of SAIGON to be more compelling. Neither would actually probably make my top 10 list, though.
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#51re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: What Tony award season....
Posted: 10/9/03 at 8:25pm
Anyone who voted a Tony for CONTACT as "Best Musical" should be permanently barred from ever entering the area bound by 52nd Street on the North end, 40th Street on the South end, 6th Avenue on the East and 9th Avenue on the West. Yes, I know CONTACT played at the Vivienne Beaumont outside of the Times Square area.
Yours for a better Broadway!
#52re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: What Tony award season....
Posted: 10/9/03 at 9:11pmRagtime should have won hands down. Amazing show, amazing story, score, everything. Although i'm still ticked about Movin Out being nominated this year. I had comps and wanted my money back :P
King Stevos
Broadway Star Joined: 5/15/03
#53Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 2:09am
I think that with the best musical category, it needs to be renamed: Best Production of a Musical.
Because it seems that they take in all factors when Considering it, like the academies and their Best Picture: which takes in all aspects, I still believe that Far From heaven Got Gipped btw.
But Imo even though Urinetown is one of my top threes, and a much more coherent show than Millie...Millie did have a better performance: ensemble, dance, setting, lighting, costumes, Best Actress...it had a more complete performance than urinetown, which, on purpose, had a set that seemed constructed for under 500 bucks...
Though I have never seen LK or Rag, I believe that it is possible that this idea of complete production came into play...
STEVOS
#54re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 2:17amGotta disagree with you on Millie's physical production. It has a set, costumes and lighting that seem to be at war with each other. The Millie choreography did nothing for me either.
#55re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 11:04ami liked the setting and most costumes. i didn't think Millie's clothes worked, for the character or on Sutton. But she still pulled it off (and i know Stevo would like her to just pull it off period...)
#56re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 11:04am
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You took the words right outta my mouth.
It musta been when you were kissing me.
#57re: re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 1:36pmYa big tramp! I told you to keep yer yap shut!
#58re: re: re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 1:39pmDon't be ashamed of our love.
#59re: re: re: re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 2:12pmBut it's just a green glass love, Robbie. I thought it was emeralds.
#60re: re: re: re: re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/10/03 at 2:15pmDon't pin your future on a green glass love. Gimme, Gimme!
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#61Rename the category
Posted: 10/11/03 at 8:59am
Hey Balledeer.... who is that fabulous lady in the red as your icon.
It looks like Linda Eder's "Bring on the Men/Good and Evil" outfit from Jekyll and Hyde
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#62Rename the category
Posted: 10/11/03 at 9:00am
Hey Balledeer.... who is that fabulous lady in the red as your icon.
It looks like Linda Eder's "Bring on the Men/Good and Evil" outfit from Jekyll and Hyde
#63re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/11/03 at 9:24amThat is the lovely Coleen Sexton who played Lucy in the PPV Jekyll and Hyde.
MagicRoy
Understudy Joined: 7/18/03
#64re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/12/03 at 12:31am
First of all, The Producers score is incredible and rightfully won over Full Monte and Jane Eyre. Producers is what brought back the sensation of musical COMEDIES that we now have. Me? I can't stand that sappy sad depressing overdramatic stuff...and I don't like Rock or poppy music that much.
Anyway, Urinetown not getting Best Musical, I don't understand. Best Book, Best Score, and Best Director altogether (which are the 3 most important awards for a production of a musical) add up to Best Musical. The book is incredible...it is, in fact, actor proof. Urinetown, a few years after its Broadway run, will become a high school classic because of this. I don't agree that Hunter Foster should have been nominated; Bobby Strong is an actor-proof role, stick in a good young tenor with some stage presence and you're set. The only two roles in the show which require talent are Lockstock, who's lines need good delivery to be funny (as opposed to most of the other GREAT lines in the show, which are either funny on their own, or who's rythm in a song build in the correct timing), and Cladwell, who has to have a perfect balance of being evil but still "showmanish." That said, John Lithgow had an excellent performance and I'm glad he won. Just because a musical is poorly written and has a week all-around cast doesn't mean that one person couldn't be good.
Meanwhile, I don't think there has been anything major. Sure, I think William Daniels should have won the Tony for Best Actor in 1776; that same year (1969) I think Herschel Bernardi should have also won as Zorba, an incredible role played very well.
King Stevos
Broadway Star Joined: 5/15/03
#65re: re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/12/03 at 12:49am
Well if you really think the producers had a wonderfull score, then do you agree with brooks, saying he wrote the music???
Also, with the urinetown thing, didnt the same thing happen to ITW back int he eighties? I believe POTO won best show? not sure and I dotn feel like researching it, Im tired...but, I think thats right...
Back on the Producers having a better score...can you really sit down and listen to full monty and producers in the same day, without picturing the original staging and actors, and say, this was better than that? I can't I can only wonder at how an incompetent score won? Just an opinion.
STEVOS
tpdc
Broadway Star Joined: 5/30/03
#66Rename the category
Posted: 10/12/03 at 1:41am
WOODS/PHANTOM, FALSETTOS/CRAZY FOR YOU, RAGTIME/LION KING, PARADE/FOSSE, the voters often split the Best Musical and the writing awards. It does make the arguement that it should be called Best Production of a Musical.
I think the scores for both THE PRODUCERS and FULL MONTY are weak and in a few years neither score will be well remembered.
#67re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/12/03 at 2:29am
"Hey Balledeer.... who is that fabulous lady in the red as your icon.
It looks like Linda Eder's "Bring on the Men/Good and Evil" outfit from Jekyll and Hyde"
Jon....Benzy is correct...It is Coleen Sexton, who was the last Lucy Harris on Broadway. Did you see the J&H video? If not, she and Andrea Rivette as Emma would be the only reasons why I would recommend it to anyone to watch. Those two were fantastic in their respective roles, especially Coleen Sexton. She sang and performed the best "Good and Evil" this young Balladeer has ever seen. And being that I saw the show quite a few times with the original cast, and others, that is saying something. And boy was she incredible live....she REALLY blew the roof off the house when she sang that number, and "A New Life". But no one could beat Linda's rendition. And did I also mention that she was HOT?
Cheers,
The Balladeer
#68re: re: Rename the category
Posted: 10/12/03 at 9:37am
Tpdc wrote:
WOODS/PHANTOM, FALSETTOS/CRAZY FOR YOU, RAGTIME/LION KING, PARADE/FOSSE, the voters often split the Best Musical and the writing awards. It does make the arguement that it should be called Best Production of a Musical.
However, never in the history of the Tony Awards has a show won Best Book, Best Score AND Best Director as Urinetown did, and failed to win Best Musical.
Good as Urinetown's writing is, though, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is actor proof. Not sure that anything really is. I've seen some very fine, nearly indestructible shows almost done in by community theatres.
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