When Will FINDING NEVERLAND Pack It In?- Page 2

[bassettbear]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 12:03am

their website doesn't say anything about Kelsey Grammer being out of the show for 2 weeks, are you sure? Where did you read this?

[Back Row]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 12:11am

For as much as posters around here derided Matt Morrison as not much of a box office draw, its amusing to now see his exit given as a legit reason for the box office decline.

 

I don't recall many posters saying that he wasn't much of a box office draw. I think the argument was that he was hired not because he could play the role better, but because he was more TV famous than Jordan. The sentiment among the Jordan fans was that Weinstein was underestimating Jordan's box office appeal, and perhaps giving too much weight to Morrison's TV star status when compared to Jordan.  I don't think there was ever any question that Morrison had fan base that would buy tickets.

 

Who's to say whether or not Jordan could have been as big a draw as Morrison? Weinstein himself said that in the early days of the show that the primary draw was the story, not the stars. Looking back on it, the situation was quite unfair to both Morrison and Jordan. Subsequent interviews of Jordan seemed to indicate that Weinstein had been less than forthcoming when Jordan was hired for the A.R.T. run, and more and more, I got the impression that Weinstein was not telling Morrison the entire truth about Jordan's situation either. As a result, Jordan was left out in the cold, and Morrison came off as entitled and somewhat less than gracious. Neither was served well by the position that Weinstein put them in. But what's done is done. Jordan has starred in a movie, starred in the Parade concert, played to numerous sold out cabaret shows and landed a job on a TV show since he left Neverland, and Morrison has completed his run and moved back to TV. Life goes on. However, there is little doubt that the show losing its star in January is affecting attendance. It will be interesting to see if they try to bring in a big name to take the show through the summer and fall, if they can find a big (TV) name who is willing.

[bfreak]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 12:36am

bassettbear said: "their website doesn't say anything about Kelsey Grammer being out of the show for 2 weeks, are you sure? Where did you read this?

 

Yes. He said it himself in person and on TV (Colbert show I think). The show is just covering it up because he is now their main marketing ply on their website and stuff.

 

[Sunny11]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 12:53am

So will Alfie Boe be a strong enough draw to boost attendance in the spring? 

[bassettbear]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 1:06am

bfreak said: "bassettbear said: "their website doesn't say anything about Kelsey Grammer being out of the show for 2 weeks, are you sure? Where did you read this?

Yes. He said it himself in person and on TV (Colbert show I think). The show is just covering it up because he is now their main marketing ply on their website and stuff.

 

 thats too bad. I have tickets for March 12th. Him and Sandy Duncan out since I purchased my tix ... sigh

 

"

 

[Theatrefan2]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 1:14am

Alfie Boe is only a draw to his fans..  I find him much too operatic and not a very good actor.  IMO bad casting and he is also opening it in London.  He is more of a name there than here though.

[nicnyc]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 3:19am

rosscoe(au) said: "Is it the show that most people have a problem with or have most people just jumped on the I hate Harvey bandwagon? 

I understand I am likely in the minority on this, but I have nothing against Harvey Weinstein.  He is far from my favorite person on the planet - but his connection to the show had zero influence on my feelings (or lack thereof) for it.

The primary reason we did not enjoy the show because the score was dreadful (truly not a single good song in the show).   Also, at the time I saw the show, Matthew Morrison was playing the lead and I did not enjoy his performance at all.  I can't help but feel from an artistic perspective, Jeremy Jordan would have been better in the role for a variety of reasons - but I think they underestimated Jordan's appeal and went for a TV name who seemed a bit uninterested (at least at the performance I saw).  Much of the rest of the cast was at least very serviceable - but it wasn't nearly enough to prop up that score.  I wanted to like it - I really did - but it is hard to find much to be positive about in musical that lacks any good music.

The only thing in the whole show that we thought was really well done was a little bit of stage magic/effect towards the end.  It was creative and, if you cared about the characters, it would have been quite impactful. By that point, the only thing the people in my group were rooting for was for the show to end.

 

[perfectlymarvelous]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 3:34am

I didn't hate the show, but it's certainly not going to go down in history as a great theatrical achievement. What surprised (and disappointed) me most was the focus on making it a huge, family- style spectacle when the movie is not that at all. It's a really sweet and gentle film, with strong central performances...it's actually probably the last role I truly liked Johnny Depp in, and Kate Winslet is lovely as the mother. The tone of the show is so at odds with the tone of the source material. The performances in the musical were serviceable enough, I adore Laura Michelle Kelly and Carolee Carmello but their talents were woefully underused. It's just overall a pleasant enough but ultimately unsatisfying show.

[skies]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 3:37am

I think some of the problem is disgruntled Jeremy Jordan fans. I get their unhappiness for how Jordan was treated, but still....

[valeposh]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 6:38am

As big of a fanbase Jordan might have, I can't imagine it's enough to significantly decrease sales for a show. I just think Matt Morrison was the biggest draw, and now that he isn't in it, people are just less interested to see it. Again, as some said, it's only been grossing this poorly a couple of weeks in total, so I don't really think it's going away any time soon.

[bfreak]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 6:41am

Yes, everyone has to also remember like valeposh said that the show was doing really well for a long time. It's just slumped lately like some other popular shows from last season. I'm not saying there shouldn't be cause for concern, but I wouldn't expect a closing notice posted anytime in the near future.

[ACL2006]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 12:50pm

the producers will keep the show going through the summer. That's where they'll make their money. If advance sales aren't decent enough to keep the open in Sept/Oct., they'll likely close by Labor Day.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 4:34pm

"I wouldn't panic just yet. Yes, their numbers lately are cause for concern but considering it is a very slow time of year and Matthew Morrison has now left I don't know what would be expected"

 

I agree, it being winter and losing Matthew Morrison at the same time does not help. I think when spring rolls around  everyone will get a better idea how long the show may last.

[SweetLips]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 6:07pm

FN will never be up there with those 3 no name block busters or Phantom or Les Mis for that matter. It will just puddle along, probably breaking even, just trying to make more $ with different leads.[Havn't seen it] but it appears very lightweight, nothing special--pity 'they' had to turn a beautiful story into a musical. Why does [almost] every story have to now be a musical?

Just saw those clips of Waitress---good luck with that one too-yikes and that terrible Greek chorus style back-up with jive hands/arms--had a flash back to Tommy Tune and Will Rogers Follies

SL

Updated On: 3/3/16 at 06:07 PM

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 8:24pm

I saw it in previews and I went because of Morrison ( nothing to do with him being on the awful glee ) I had seen him in something years ago and liked him. I don't think I would have went if Jordan was in it.

[bfreak]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 8:41pm

I specifically went in January to see Matthew Morrison's last week and Kelsey Grammer's first week back. I'm also not a fan of Glee (at all) but I wanted to see it with him because I was impressed with his performances of Neverland on TV and on the soundtrack. I thought he did a very good job and he seemed pretty into it to me. And his chemistry with Kelsey Grammer was terrific (he was great also).

[massofmen]

Posted: 3/3/16 at 11:32pm

Show will close to make room for spongebob

[10086sunset]

Posted: 3/4/16 at 2:57pm

With the announcement of Boe and and Grammer opening the show in London in early 2017, seems like the writing's on the wall.

[bfreak]

Posted: 3/4/16 at 3:08pm

Not neccessarily. But like I said, if it doesn't pick up box office soon it may really be in trouble.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 3/8/16 at 10:32am

What was Barry and Frans job in producing this show? Were they involved in getting Diane? Were they there to teach Harvey the ways of the theatre? If it's the latter I think they failed miserably.

[Sunny11]

Posted: 4/18/16 at 5:20pm

I was hoping that the bounce over Easter weekend would stick.  Now grosses have dipped below 40% potential, in mid spring. The  increased buzz of the new shows over the awards season won't help..

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 4/18/16 at 5:31pm

Old Harvey is apparently still willing to shovel money to his Vanity project. When he tires of it, it will close.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 4/18/16 at 5:33pm

Is around the world in 80 days still happening?

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 4/18/16 at 5:34pm

Loved the movie

[massofmen]

Posted: 4/18/16 at 9:38pm

Over by labor day if not sooner.