#26
Posted: 10/18/03 at 1:22pm
I disagree. Forbidden Broadway is to topical for Out of town European tourists. But I love your other suggestions.
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#27
Posted: 10/18/03 at 1:30pm
In all due respect...most will see what "their" friends have said is worth seeing. I would. And like it or not...it's the long runners or popular touring productions that come up as first choice. Most tourists and conventioneers only get to NY once or twice a year, if that. Their not always willing to take a chance with $100.
Some of us are very spoiled to have many first hand theatrical expereinces, aren't we? Kinda like dating a little or dating a lot...well,,,almost :)
Some of us are very spoiled to have many first hand theatrical expereinces, aren't we? Kinda like dating a little or dating a lot...well,,,almost :)
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#28
Posted: 10/18/03 at 1:50pm
Corine, how could you suggest FORBIDDEN BWY to tourists? The show means nothing to people who don't have a grasp on the current theater scene. Geeze!!!!
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#29
Posted: 10/18/03 at 2:09pm
The tourists would be clueless FB!!
#30
Posted: 10/18/03 at 2:12pm
Next to close, Taboo. Right after it opens.
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#31
Posted: 10/18/03 at 3:07pm
I'll take a stab at this and predict "Cabaret".
(Yes, I know it's already scheduled to close)
(Yes, I know it's already scheduled to close)
#32
Posted: 10/18/03 at 3:10pm
Just a feeling, in my opinion, and please I don't need to be reminded one has not even started previews. Some shows sound ill conceived from the start (URBAN COWBOY, DOTV anyone). So here are my picks.
TABOO - Jan.
CABARET - Feb.
BOY FROM OZ - Mar. (and yes I also realize that Jackman signed for a year, but I would not be surprised if contractually there is a clause to release after 6 months if grosses fall.)
TABOO - Jan.
CABARET - Feb.
BOY FROM OZ - Mar. (and yes I also realize that Jackman signed for a year, but I would not be surprised if contractually there is a clause to release after 6 months if grosses fall.)
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#33
Posted: 10/18/03 at 3:49pm
I hate to say this as I really did enjoy this show every time I have seen it but not one person has mentioned "AIDA"
I have to say that when Toni Braxton goes, unless they hit the international trrade heavily (and maybe they already are)-- it might close.
I have to say that when Toni Braxton goes, unless they hit the international trrade heavily (and maybe they already are)-- it might close.
#34
Posted: 10/18/03 at 3:52pm
1: Don't judge a show before it opens. 2: I LOVE Rent! It is the only show I will see twice on tour in January. Princess, I just think it is time to go on Bway. Tours are just as good. Let some other shows come in...I just don't want the show to die.
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#35
Posted: 10/18/03 at 6:09pm
Well, first of all, Daisy, I'd love to meet you when I come to New York in December and give me some tips, you soud like a lot of fun. Now, let me state my point of view as a tourist. Probably the main reason for finally making it to NYC all the way from Greece, is Broadway. I love musicals and I am going frequently to London to watch them. But i agree, with someone that said that tourists go for the sure hits. I myself will go to Boy from Oz, Rent, Beauty, Aida, Hairspray and The Producers. I really wish I could check the hidden gems around. But I don't have enough time, so I really want to go to shows that I have the CDs, i am familiar with the Story and the subject interests me. Yes, I wish I could see Avenue Q, Wicked, Millie etc. But if that means I have to sacrifice the others that i want to see for so long, I don't intend to. I think it's a matter of choice and taste.
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#36
Posted: 10/18/03 at 6:58pm
I love Rent, and I think its purposefully low costs will keep it open for a while longer. Great show, hope to see it more than once more.
Personally, I think it's high time for Beauty and the Beast to bite the bullet...why is that show even still running?
-Wayne
Personally, I think it's high time for Beauty and the Beast to bite the bullet...why is that show even still running?
-Wayne
#37
Posted: 10/18/03 at 7:14pm
well Daisy i guess we'll have to agree to disagree? i'll never understand how anyone can dispise RENT, but whatever floats your boat. I personally don't like Avenue Q, and I know that makes me an oddball around here.
Every year the same thing happens at the Neder: RENTheads and tourists go back to school, seats are left empty and everyone insists that theres a "bad feeling i nthe air" oir whatever. But, every year come Christmas things live nup again. RENT has always been one of those shows with unpredicatable attendance. Friday night can be half full, but then then the next night is PACKED so yeah, its not going anywhere anytime soon =)
Nobody else is sick of Phantom!?!? it needs to DIE already! =)
Every year the same thing happens at the Neder: RENTheads and tourists go back to school, seats are left empty and everyone insists that theres a "bad feeling i nthe air" oir whatever. But, every year come Christmas things live nup again. RENT has always been one of those shows with unpredicatable attendance. Friday night can be half full, but then then the next night is PACKED so yeah, its not going anywhere anytime soon =)
Nobody else is sick of Phantom!?!? it needs to DIE already! =)
#38
Posted: 10/18/03 at 7:50pm
I don't, and probably never will, understand how people rationalize the decline in Rent ticket sales on Rentheads going back to school. One, I am quite the follower of the show myself and my going back to school usually allows me more chances to get into the city and two, I really don't think the decline in Rentheads going are what make the percentages drop.
To address someone who mentioned that tourists are only interested in Rent, I find that really hard to believe. Even if, it was Rent that got me into Broadway as a whole two years ago and I have since seen twenty other productions that I probably wouldn't have had as much interest in had I not been introduced to the fun of Broadway through Rent. Surely it doesn't work that way for everyone, but you never know.
Of shows that I've seen, I think the one that needs to go the most is probably Aida. Toni Braxton may be bringing in the dough, but she butchers the show and it seems they're going to be using big names to draw in crowds once she leaves as well, and as much as I love the production, it's losing its luster and its magic.
To address someone who mentioned that tourists are only interested in Rent, I find that really hard to believe. Even if, it was Rent that got me into Broadway as a whole two years ago and I have since seen twenty other productions that I probably wouldn't have had as much interest in had I not been introduced to the fun of Broadway through Rent. Surely it doesn't work that way for everyone, but you never know.
Of shows that I've seen, I think the one that needs to go the most is probably Aida. Toni Braxton may be bringing in the dough, but she butchers the show and it seems they're going to be using big names to draw in crowds once she leaves as well, and as much as I love the production, it's losing its luster and its magic.
#39
Posted: 10/18/03 at 8:46pm
"Broaden your horizon people! That's all I have to say to these tourists who are closed off to musicals which don't have as big of a hype. It's all about Rent, Hairspray, Phantom of the Opera, Beauty and the Beast, or Chicago (and only since the movie, of course)."
It's a different perspective. As someone already mentioned, going to a show, for a tourist, is part of the New York Experience. They want to be able to go back home and talk about having seen something that people will have heard of. And there is nothing wrong with that. Kids coming from out of town are still going to be drawn to the likes of Rent, and my mom is still going to think it's way cooler to be taken to Phantom or Chicago than she is if I take her to Urinetown. That's not to say that she wouldn't enjoy Urinetown, but the other two still have more power to impress the non-theater crowd and the folks back home in the heartland.
It's a VERY different experience living somewhere where one doesn't have a cornucopia of entertainment options from which to choose. That was something that blew me away when I moved here from the midwest. When I was growing up, you went to whatever show happened to be in town at that moment. It was that show or nothing. There weren't dozens from which to choose. Even now, living near NYC, I still want to have seen the "classics" at least once. Maybe I'm being defensive, but I don't think it's necessarily closed-mindedness that leads people to seek out the well-known hits.
It's a different perspective. As someone already mentioned, going to a show, for a tourist, is part of the New York Experience. They want to be able to go back home and talk about having seen something that people will have heard of. And there is nothing wrong with that. Kids coming from out of town are still going to be drawn to the likes of Rent, and my mom is still going to think it's way cooler to be taken to Phantom or Chicago than she is if I take her to Urinetown. That's not to say that she wouldn't enjoy Urinetown, but the other two still have more power to impress the non-theater crowd and the folks back home in the heartland.
It's a VERY different experience living somewhere where one doesn't have a cornucopia of entertainment options from which to choose. That was something that blew me away when I moved here from the midwest. When I was growing up, you went to whatever show happened to be in town at that moment. It was that show or nothing. There weren't dozens from which to choose. Even now, living near NYC, I still want to have seen the "classics" at least once. Maybe I'm being defensive, but I don't think it's necessarily closed-mindedness that leads people to seek out the well-known hits.
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#40
Posted: 10/18/03 at 9:00pm
There are different classes of tourists as well. I'm a tourist, but I also try my damndest to keep up with what's playing and what most suits my taste. There are other tourists who know nothing except what they see in the flyers at the airports or the hotels. I wouldn't pay a dime to see some of the "touristy" shows such as AIDA, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, and THE LION KING because they just don't interest me. I can't imagine a scenario where I would attend any of these productions. On the other hand, I went to MAMMA MIA!, and I had a great time, but I knew going in what to expect.
I wish there were a nationally broadcast show that discussed broadway productions (and didn't just concentrate on musicals either so that a lot of non-New Yorkers would be better informed.
I wish there were a nationally broadcast show that discussed broadway productions (and didn't just concentrate on musicals either so that a lot of non-New Yorkers would be better informed.
#41
Posted: 10/18/03 at 9:10pm
"Personally, I think it's high time for Beauty and the Beast to bite the bullet...why is that show even still running?
-Wayne" "
Because when a family comes to NY with small children it is a safe show they can take their kids to. Every time I am in NY and walk by that theater I see little girls all dolled up and excited to go to the theater.
-Wayne" "
Because when a family comes to NY with small children it is a safe show they can take their kids to. Every time I am in NY and walk by that theater I see little girls all dolled up and excited to go to the theater.
#42
Posted: 10/18/03 at 9:47pm
And THAT is a beautiful thing. I love when families go to Broadway. I rarely get to see a show with my whole family anymore. I know it sounds cliche, but Broadway really brings families together. Those rare occasions where I see a show with my father are golden.
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#43
Posted: 10/18/03 at 11:47pm
I would say Rent. To all those who say POTO, remember in one of Reidels columns it was reported that the producers of "Jerry Springer The Opera were eying the the theater if POTO closed . Do you now want POTO to close. I guess what happens now that Springer has moved to the West End will determine if it has any chance of Broadway
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#44
Posted: 10/19/03 at 12:26am
If I am reading your comment correctly.. which did not make all that sense. You do or do not want Jerry to come to NY? I am confused
#45
Posted: 10/19/03 at 7:38am
I'm surprised no one has said Little Shop of Horrors. This revival doesn't exactly seem to be setting the world on fire. There are a number of shows I personally wish would bite the bullet but in reality I think Little shop will be gone by Christmas, Boy from Oz by March along with Gypsy which has never (in any incarnation) been a popular show. Two that would seem to be doubtful hits (and they haven't even opened!) would have to be Wonderful Town and Taboo.
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#46
Posted: 10/19/03 at 8:23am
Technically not a tourist, but I am a "one or two shows a year" kind of guy. At that rate, I know I'm going to miss out on Gypsy and Take Me Out, both of which I find kind of interesting but know will never last long enough for me to see. Why? Because this year I'm seeing Wicked.
I disagree with that cliche about tourists only wanting to see a "sure thing" for their money. Forget about the money -- the fact is that if you only get to see one show every 10 years, of course you're going to go for the big one.
If you had only 10 minutes to spend at the Smithsonian, wouldn't you head right for the Hope Diamond?
I disagree with that cliche about tourists only wanting to see a "sure thing" for their money. Forget about the money -- the fact is that if you only get to see one show every 10 years, of course you're going to go for the big one.
If you had only 10 minutes to spend at the Smithsonian, wouldn't you head right for the Hope Diamond?
#47
Posted: 10/19/03 at 11:05am
Look tourists go to theater and they might not get every inside joke in FB. But they will laugh. Besides many tourists go to more theater then some Native New Yorkers.
I think everyone should see Forbidden Broadway!
Everyone!
I think everyone should see Forbidden Broadway!
Everyone!
Updated On: 10/19/03 at 11:05 AM
#48
Posted: 10/19/03 at 11:13am
I have a friend in Urinetown, and according to him, they have no plans of closing. Personally, I think Taboo will close right after it opens.
#49
Posted: 10/19/03 at 2:33pm
Alot of people are saying that about Taboo. It starts Friday so I guess we'll see what everyone has to say.
#50
Posted: 10/19/03 at 4:40pm
>I'm suprised we haven't had the obligatory "How can you wish a >show to close thread..let's all support Broadway!!! (insert >smiley face)."
I believe I can "support Broadway" while still wondering which will be the "next show to close." Some show has to close eventually and that will open a theatre for the next production.
I believe I can "support Broadway" while still wondering which will be the "next show to close." Some show has to close eventually and that will open a theatre for the next production.
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