Who are Broadway's forgotten stars? — Page 2
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Peace love and hairgrease,
QP
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Peace love and hairgrease,
QP
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Cheers,
The Balladeer
Posted: 9/4/03 at 5:17pm

In regards to Vera-Ellen...
Yes, her baby Victoria died of SIDS and then her husband, Victor, divorced her shortly after. She had a slight breakdown that led her to seclusion in her mansion in Hollywood. She stopped making pictures and she kind of faded from the spotlight. She died really young, too -- from cancer.
It's rumored that she was anorexic. I mean, look at the VAST difference in size from WONDERMAN or THREE LITTLE GIRLS IN BLUE to WHITE CHRISTMAS. She went from being a healthy dancer with a muscular build to being a stick figure.
I used to know someone who was friends with her before her death and apparently she went on this all protein diet and cut out carbs completely. SO unhealthy, especially for someone SO active. I guess her lack of nutrition took on the same effects as one who suffers from anorexia, which is why her upper body slowly started taking on a skeleton form. Notice in WHITE CHRISTMAS, all her outfits have long sleeves and high necks, but show off her twig legs. The tops of her outfits were actually padded because she was so embarrassed by it.
It's so sad that she felt the need to be thinner. MGM did a number on her. They even made her get a nose job. She was so talented and beautiful. A sad fate she suffered. ![]()
I agree... no other dancer of her time danced with such passion and ease. She was so versatile as a dancer, too.
The pic above is a pic of her pre-diet, when she was contracted with Samuel Goldwyn. She was a healthy, muscular girl... and about the same size as me. It irritates me SO much that MGM told her she was too "chunky".
~Stewart Gilligan Griffin
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Posted: 9/4/03 at 5:21pm

Here's a pic of her pre nose job in 1946.
~Stewart Gilligan Griffin
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And because I can't figure out how to get more than one pic in one response... here's the last pic.
V-E post nose job and diet.
Sad, no?
~Stewart Gilligan Griffin
Posted: 9/4/03 at 6:48pm
She looks so healthy and happy in the first picture, with those adorable chipmunk cheeks of hers. I love her Goldwyn and Fox films. She's really rocks out in "What's Your Name" in WONDER MAN and the big Massine-choreographed 'Fiesta' number in CARNIVAL IN COSTA RICA and is completey winsome (and funny) in THREE LITTLE GIRLS IN BLUE (one of my favorite film musicals...very underrated). By the time of CALL ME MADAM, she's VERY thin - but she still is electrifying on-screen!
Again, MANY thanks for remembering the wonderful Vera-Ellen.
Posted: 9/5/03 at 12:52am
It saddens me that she felt she had to lose weight to maintain her career. Curse on MGM!
Aside from Ginger Rogers, she may have possibly been my favorite female movie musical performer. She's adorable in "Three Little Words" and "On the Town," too! Have you seen "Belle of New York"? Not the best movie, but the gowns are gorgeous and Vera-Ellen and Fred Astaire dancing together is like heaven. (She and Fred didn't have the same chemistry that he had with Ginger, but they certainly were fabulous together!)
Growing up, my dream was to dance like V-E, sing like Rosemary Clooney, and have the comedic and dramatic versatility that Miss Rogers possessed. To have all three, I think, would equal QUITE the triple threat!
~Stewart Gilligan Griffin
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Asides from Ryan's Hope and her numerous Emmy awards, for about 35YEARS! now she has been teaching Musical Comedy Technique for theater to private students. I think I just saw on this thread that she is teaching now also at HB studios.....
Her performance as Lucille in No, No Nannette was simply
glorious and brought her a richly deserved Tony. I suspect Ms. Gallagher will grace us with her presence on Broadway once again. She is a knockemdead performer:)
Nannette Fabray? Those of us who know The Carol Burnett Show well have an idea of her great gifts, as she guested often. I believe just a couple of seasons ago Fabray appeared in the play The Prince of Central Park....
I believe she was on Sid Caesar's show, in addition to Imogene Coca I guess:) That is a bit before my time.
Many of us also remember her performing "Papa, Won't You Dance With Me" on the Tony Awards 25th Anniversary Celebration.
And of course, she played Mary Richard's mother on The Mary Tyler Moore Show:), which of course also had a great musical comedy theater legend
Nancy Walker(Rhoda's mother and Sophia's sister on The Golden Girls)
I have read that Walker's performance of I'm Still Here, was the best there ever was.
P.S. To hear how an exciting musical theater performance can be captured on tape listen to the No, No, Nannette OCR:)))
You will plotz from Helen Gallagher's Where Have my Hubby Gone Blues
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Posted: 9/5/03 at 12:10pm
Yes, I know "Carrie" was a monumental flop, but everything I've ever read about it had phenomenal things to say about her.
Anyone know what she's doing?
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Linzi in on the Jason Donovan "Joseph" recording. She doesn't sound as good as she did in "Carrie," but still quite electrifying. Of course, that was some time ago, as well, so who knows what happened to her between then and the aforementioned "Chicago" sighting.
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I listen to them all the time.
Posted: 9/5/03 at 8:47pm
I've never registered the name of Linzi Hately.
To be forgotten one has to have been known. Somehow I don't believe this young woman even made the known list, outside the lists of some musical theatre....er, fans.
BB
Posted: 9/6/03 at 3:12pm
"Price In Central Park" was a while ago..back in the early 1990's? There was some other famous lady in the florida try out who couldn't sing and was replaced (By Nannett?). JoAnne Worley ended up doing the Broadway run and got good reviews.
Now...Why Don't We Remember:
Alfred Drake - By far one of the greatest male musical theater performers ever. "Curley" in Oklahoma, Fred in "Kiss Me, Kate" and others.
But on the other hand..it's great to see a vetran like Ron Holgate still at it at 70 something in the Urinetown tour. Still the ultimate Richard Henry Lee.
Posted: 9/6/03 at 5:00pm
Whatever happened to Marlyn Mason?
Cory English (he was a stand-out Barnaby in the TWHM revival a few years ago)
Joan Deiner?
Lena Horne?
Philip Anglim?
Paula Prentiss?
Romain Fruge?
Posted: 9/6/03 at 6:23pm
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