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Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?

Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?

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chenofan
#0Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 12:40am

I was searching through some old posts and noticed that there seemed to be quite a bit of hostility towards Gavin....Why? Though I have never seen him live I have always enjoyed him on his CD'S ...and he is quite yummy (wink!)


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smartpenguin78
#1re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 12:43am

I don't know about other shows but in LaCage he was very very annoying. He had a bad character but he made every moment he was onstage almost painful to watch.


I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

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chenofan
#2re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 12:44am

Really?! How sad!


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#3re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 1:11am

"...but he made every moment he was onstage almost painful to watch."

smartpenguin, how so? just outta curiousity...


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EponineThenardier
#4re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 1:22am

If it's on stage wouldn't it just be his character? Or the way the character is written? He's been incredible in the past.

apdarcey
#5re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 1:27am

i've seen him in multiple things. he's good looking, has a great voice. in general i think he's very talented.. i was excited to see him in la cage.. HE IS NOT GOOD IN THE SHOW. it's not hostility... he's horrible miscast and his acting is just awful in the show. it is not the character, it is gavin. and i feel sorry for him because i've liked him before. he sounds fine when he's singing in la cage... but that's pretty much it.

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PalJoey
#6re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 8:25am

I thought he was great in La Cage, Much better than the guy who played it originally.


BwayTheatre11
#7re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 8:30am

There are mixed emotions...there really isn't much hostility. If they don't care for him, it is because of his role in La Cage.


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Corine2
#8re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 8:58am

Gavin was wonderful in La Cage and even better in Millie.
He has a gorgeous voice and is very talented.
He is also a very nice person.
Stop the insanity.
I thought he was perfect. In fact, I have never seen Gavin in anything that was not perfect.
I do wish he would cut his hair but he likes it and let him be!

WOSQ
#9re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 9:29am

Hostile?

He's too young.
He's thin.
He's good looking.
He's talented.
People are saying now that he's NICE?
That is just too much to bear.

And to get real shallow about it, he doesn't know that I exist.


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MusicMan
#10re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 9:34am


He's dull as dirt.

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MasterLcZ
#11re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 9:57am

He's very pretty.

But I find him pretty bland as well.


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bwaysinger
#12re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 10:06am

I actually think he's pretty swell given the right material...and he certainly does look good and sing better.
That said...I gotta go with the whole miscast insanity in La Cage.

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Corine2
#13re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 10:32am

PRETTY?
NO! He is handsome.

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smartpenguin78
#14re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 10:37am

"If its on stage wouldn't it just be his character"
Well not necessarily, it is true that its a horribly written character but the delivery of the lines is totally unconvincing, he shows no emotion, even when he is spposed to finally be accepting his "fathers", he delivers every line as if he were a hummingbird. He flutters around and won't actually connect with the material or other actors on stage at all.
A lot of it could be terrible directing, as I said the part is not well written, in my opinion, but certainly the actor should be able to do something with it.

I have seen many shows and have never been as disappointed with a performance by a profesional as I was with Gavin's in La Cage. I do hope that he is better in other things and will glady support him when I see those. He does sing really nicely and dance well.


I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

joeybiltmore1
#15re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 11:16am

It's hard not to hear hostility when someone's opinion differs from your own. True, people can be emphatically negative or positive about something. But being emphatically contradictory about something or someone doesn't neccessarily make that person hostile, just as being emphatically positive about something or someone doesn't neccessarily make that person a shill.

That said, I think Creel has one of the loveliest voices on Broadway, but offers little in the acting department other than a modicum of charm.

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PalJoey
#16re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 12:18pm

I thought his acting in La Cage was miles deeper than the guy who played it in the original production. He made the character's bad behavior understandable.


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muscle23ftl
#17re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 12:21pm

he was good in "la cage" and in "millie"


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smartpenguin78
#18re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 12:24pm

PalJoey, that is precisly what I didn't see from him, he didn't seem to make any of his behaviors understandable. I didn't buy any of actions as truely motivated he just walked around on stage and said lines.


I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

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shira467
#19re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 1:30pm

I agree with the "terribly miscast" in La Cage, no questions asked. He did what he could, but overall, the role isn't that well written, IMO.

But he was phenomenal in Millie. I think he is the kind of actor that can do marvelously with the right material, but given something not-so-good for him, it goes down the drain.

But I think he's very handsome (and should cut his hair), and has a good and pleasant voice.

No hostility here!


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Chip1012
#20re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 3:16pm

Shira's icon touches my soul.

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PalJoey
#21re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 3:23pm

He gave a perfectly nuanced and psychologically poignant performance in La Cage, making clear the frustration that anyone growing up in the house with a narcissistic parent feels: "Why does it always have to be about YOU? Why can't it just this once be about ME?"

And then when the character finally comes to understand that the love he received may have been narcissistic but also was unconditional, Gavin's performance delivered the turnaound with immense warmth and grace. He was also believable as the straight son of a gay couple.

I enjoyed his charming, cute and sexy performance in Millie, but this performance in La Cage impressed me with his ACTING ability.


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smartpenguin78
#22re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 3:33pm

-Again Pal Joey I would have loved to have seen that, but I saw not one bit of the transformation or character development you just described. I saw no warmth or grace, no believablilty no spark of emotion or regret. No control or understanding of the character.
I appreciate your ability to enjoy his performance, but it was for me, one of the worst performances I have ever seen.


I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

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CATSNYrevival
#23re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 3:43pm

I have no hostility twords Gavin. I think he's sexy as all hell and can do no wrong...

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WiCkEDrOcKS
#24re: Why the hostility towards Gavin Creel?
Posted: 5/11/05 at 3:48pm

Gavin was amazing in Millie but his portrayl was eclipsed by Sutton's breakout tour-de-force extravangza of a performance. He was good in La Cage but no where as good as he was in Millie. Millie also gave him a lot more material to work with.


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