Wicked Technical Question! Warning: Spoiler
Wicked Technical Question! Warning: Spoiler
bigrab1018
Leading Actor Joined: 10/9/05
#0Wicked Technical Question! Warning: Spoiler
Posted: 10/30/05 at 9:52pm
Help! I'm really wondering how they do the transformation from Boq to the Tinman.
Thanks a lot,
bigrab
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Updated On: 10/30/05 at 09:52 PM
YankeesFan175
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/8/05
#1re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 9:58pm
well, this is just a guess, but....
boq is already wearing the outfit, the silver uniform and everything. so if i had a guess the extra stuff he puts on and the face paint are just hidden behind the wardrobe, maybe on a shelf or something and he just changes really quickly, either with the help of elphaba or a stagehand or both. wish i could say for sure, but thats always what ive imagined!
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DramaDork925
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/4/05
#2re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 9:58pmHey... could you possibly puy Spoiler in your heading because I didn't know that happens and now I do...
Am I cut out to spend my time this way?
bigrab1018
Leading Actor Joined: 10/9/05
#3re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 9:59pmoops...sorry, i will
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#4re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:08pmCheck your PMs.
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#5re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:12pm
i was curious about that too .... but that stage area where he is at is pretty dark ....
#6re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:16pmI always thought it was another actor playing the tinman. I thought this because A) It would be really hard to put on the silver face paint that fast and B) Telly Leung left the stage door before I could get there after the show (I met him when he came back to the theatre...it was a matinee).
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ihearttheatre
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/12/05
#7re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:20pm
I thought there was a different actor hidden behind the armoire that comes out fully dressed as the tin man. It doesn't seem possible for Boq to change and face paint in that time frame, and without making any noise.
Maybe I'm wrong...I only saw it once last winter.
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YankeesFan175
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/8/05
#9re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:22pmbut hed be credited if there was. and they sound so much alike. i just dont think its another actor.
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#10re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:27pmI was wondering this when I saw it here in Dallas. Can anyone enlighten me with the answer?
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#11re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:28pm
no, then might not announce something like that. i mean, he would be on for a sec. then, later on, we see boq as the tinman cause he has to sing a little.
but when i went to see the Boys of Syracuse, supposedly there was a very famous woman who played the part of the mother in the last scene and she was totally not mentioned in the playbill.
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Updated On: 10/30/05 at 10:28 PM
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BJC899
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#12re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:30pmI'm almost positive it's a body double. Boq's lines even sound recorded at the end of that scene when I saw it. I
Parks
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#13re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:35pm
Yes, it is a body double--just for the end of that scene though.
It's always fascinated me how they pull it off.
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my2cents
Featured Actor Joined: 10/18/05
#14re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:36pmsomeone please correct me, but a double is standing behind the armoire in tin man costume. that actor changes places with the actor playing boq when elphaba wheels him behind. They trade places. The other actor is wheeled out and then lip synches the dialogue of boq (performed by the boq actor) and runs off. The boq actor then goes off with the scenery and changed into the tin man for the witchhunter scene.
#15re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 10:58pmThat is correct. I believe right now, Adam Flemming is the Tin Man... anyone confirm that?
jstabwaybabi
Understudy Joined: 8/5/05
#16re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 11:09pm
it could totally be a double.
if you've ever seen Phantom, the scene while Christine and Phantom are going into the Phantoms "house" the running across of the bridges and "tunnels" are stunt doubles dressed as them because of the way the run across the stage from differnet directions.
also its not really a double, but at the end of beauty and the beast before the transformation, the lights go out after the Gaston and Beast duel...and then hes laying on Beauty's lap...but he doenst move. he is all ready on the "lift?" for the transformation.
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#17re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 11:25pmOMG, who was that woman in THE BOYS FROM SYRACUSE Revival?
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#18re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/30/05 at 11:46pm
my2cents is correct (above). Boq's first appearance as the Tin Man is done with a body double who lip-syncs the few lines to Boq's voice. Then Boq has plenty of time to put on the costume before returning.
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Updated On: 10/31/05 at 11:46 PM
#19re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/31/05 at 12:42am
The very first time you see Boq as the tin man it is a double (during Wicked Witch of the East)...there is lip synching done (though VERY well)...
when you see him later it is most certainly teh person who plays boq (I've seen the show from front, 2nd or 5th row 5 times) it is always been a body double for the transformation, and the real Boq for "It's due to her I'm made of tin..." part...
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#20re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/31/05 at 10:57am
It IS a body double. They make the switch and then later, offstage Boq changes costume and make-up for the tin man.
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Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#22re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/31/05 at 12:40pmNo. Thwe body double comes out in the wheel chair. Boq is on stage in half of that scene, there is no way he could be in the wheel chair with all that make-up so quickly..
#23re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/31/05 at 12:53pmyeah they use body doubles a lot. when i was in a box seat one time for DRS i realized that they use a double for lithgow during the "paging dr schuffhausen" scene, when hes sitting in the chair reading the newspaper and he snaps his fingers. its an ensemble member. but actually i never noticed the boq double, they pull it off really well, especially to have dialogue going on and lip synching. thats impressive.
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#24re: Wicked Technical Question!
Posted: 10/31/05 at 1:11pm
"there IS a body double, and it the "real Boq" is the tin man that comes out in the wheel chair. He is waiting begind the armoir the entire scene all dressed and in makeup."
That's incorrect. I think you misunderstood what Ms. Federer was telling you.
The "real Bog" plays BOQ in that scene, and a chorus boy comes out dressed up as the tin man, and those few lines are pre-recorded. I have the video to prove it.
Think about it... an audience is going o notice if Boq's face changed. They're not going to notice if a silver face that they see for 2 seconds is slightly different.
Updated On: 10/31/05 at 01:11 PM
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