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#1

Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 10:54am

I've recently seen Wicked and really enjoyed it.
However I wonder what trick Elphaba uses to survive the "melting"?
I didn't know anything about this show before, I guess there are some people here who know it quite well, so I hope you can give me a clue.

#2

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 11:04am

ummm.....trapdoor. Also, I was under the impression that the whole water-thing isn't so much of a threat in the musical version, as she gets rained on right before I'm Not That Girl and doesn't melt. Also:

FIYERO (spoken)
Do you hear that - water will melt her?! People
are so empty-headed, they'll believe anything!

#3

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 11:13am

I THINK she uses the whole melting thing as a ploy to seceretly get to Fyearo's castle.

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#4

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 11:13am

I THINK she uses the whole melting thing as a ploy to seceretly get to Fyearo's castle.

"If you try to shag my husband while I am still alive, I will shove the art of motorcycle maintenance up your rancid little Cu**. That's a good dear" Tom Stoppard's Rock N Roll

#5

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 11:17am

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Yeah, I THINK she uses the whole melting thing as a ploy to seceretly get to Fyearo's castle.

Fiyero...hee-hee-hee!

#6

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 11:27am

It is a ploy she uses to escape so she can get to Fiyero and they can be together at his castle...

Technically it's a trapdoor that is used. Remember poor Idina in her last performance(s)

They merely thought that and it was rumor because they hated her and beleived her "soul is so unclean, pure water can melt her!" *Pshaw* Water can not melt a human. She is a human woman

And not WICKED at all

I am very glad you enjoyed it

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Updated On: 10/16/06 at 11:27 AM

#7

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 11:28am

oh! he's gone to fetch me a drink of water. he's so thoughtful that way :)

#8

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 11:35am

folkyboy- Gotta love Glinda

It sure fits this discussion

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#9

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:03pm

The line is "refreshment".

I was under the impression that the witch melting takes place AT Fiyero's castle. He says the castle has plenty of tunnels and trapdoors, which to me means "hey, we will use those in our plan."

#10

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:10pm

If I am not mistakened, in the novel Wicked, she is allergic to water. Is that right or am I completely making that up?

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#11

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:11pm

I don't remember whether it was an allergy or not, but there are definite signs that Elphaba is no fan of water in the novel.

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#12

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:25pm

She is allergic to water in the novel. It has been 3 years since I have read it, but I think she cleans herself with oils in the book.

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#13

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:31pm

I thought she cleaned herself with milk...I know that she cannot bear water though.

#14

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:54pm

She cleaned herself with oil. Water burned her skin a bit, but there was no melting.

Either way, the musical and the book aren't always on the same page, so to speak.

#15

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:58pm

I know that in the musical she is not allergic to water and it was all a ploy, but I just wanted to state about the book for some reason. **shrugs shoulders**

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#16

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 2:59pm

*slight SPOILERS about the book in my post, just to let anyone who may not want to read them know*

yeah, in the novel she really IS very allergic to water. It doesn't mealt her, but it does burn her to death in the end (which is one thing I like better about the show... call me a sucker for happy endings, but I much prefer the nice fairy tale ending that at least makes the story end up SOMEWHAT happy. The book is just really, REALLY depressing in the end)

but i've always kind of assumed that in the show she just isn't.. I'm pretty sure that in the show it doesnt affect her it all. She's just heard that that's a rumor going around about her, so she uses it as a ploy to make everyone think she died. I could be wrong.. but I've always just thought that :) so the whole thing is just a fake, but she knows they'll all believe it

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Updated On: 10/16/06 at 02:59 PM

#17

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 3:00pm

Oh, I understand. I was going to bring it up if no one else did. It just annoys me at times that they're so different.

#18

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 3:11pm

Does anyone know how they made her shadow seem to shrink? I saw the tour about 6 months ago. Thanks :)

#19

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 3:17pm

actually, I think thats not a special effect or anything :) Because they really do use a trap door which elphie goes down in (a la the incredibly sucky idina incedent), so I think that's really her shadow just going down into the trap door behind the skrim

I don't need a life that's normal. That's way too far away. But something next to normal would be okay. Something next to normal is what I'd like to try. Close enough to normal to get by.

Updated On: 10/16/06 at 03:17 PM

#20

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 3:19pm

As far as I know, it's just her shadow going down the trapdoor behind the scrim.

EDIT: Like snl89 said

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Updated On: 10/16/06 at 03:19 PM

#21

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 3:19pm

I much prefer the book ending, but the ending of the musical makes sense with the ending of the Wizard of Oz movie where she's being totall over-the-top in her melting with the "what a world! What a world!"

"I've got to get me out of here This place is full of dirty old men And the navigators and their mappy maps And moldy heads and pissing on sugar cubes While you stare at your books."

#22

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 3:29pm

One muscle mary to another at the gym water fountain:

1st mary) You better watch it with that water, honey - you might melt!

2nd mary) Why, sweetie, because I'm made of sugar?

#23

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 4:11pm

If you watch the movie, at the start of the melting scene, wind starts blowing up her dress, creating a bubble. When she is finished melting, the wind stops blowing. The split second after the wind machine stops, you can see the remains of her dress hang down through a circular hole in the floor (the trap door). It's actually quite interesting if you watch very closely.

#24

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 10:37pm

im reading the book right now .. but dont remember so far anything about her being allergic to waterrr

#25

re: Wicked- Melting Scene

Posted: 10/16/06 at 10:50pm

does anyone know if the scream they do every night is a sound effect for the melting scene., or actally them..... and does anybody know if the meltingis a special effect because i know elphaba is lowered through a trapdoor but it looks like a projection

Can, can I have it?

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