#26
Posted: 8/5/04 at 3:15pm
PHANTOM is a masterpice and will run for 4,000 years.
Will the movie kill Phantom? Or revive it. — Page 2
#27
Posted: 8/5/04 at 3:22pm
It will definately revive it.
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#28
Posted: 8/5/04 at 3:33pm
I'd have to also side with Penalers - nothing can help that stinking slop of a show...Possums...
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!
#29
Posted: 8/5/04 at 4:13pm
redhotinnyc2, God you're funny.
4,000 years! Fock!
Even the Catholic Church hasn't been able to keep their show going THAT long!
4,000 years! Fock!
Even the Catholic Church hasn't been able to keep their show going THAT long!
#30
Posted: 8/5/04 at 4:20pm
I think the movie will help the Broadway production. So many broadway theatregoers want to see shows that they've seen many times before, know the plot by heart, or can sing the whole score. This saves them the trouble from having to think or actually listen during the show, and if they fall asleep, they won't miss anything. This is why so very few new plays are done on Broadway, and why Assasins and Caroline can't get a decent run.
#32
Posted: 8/5/04 at 4:40pm
Thank God LadyGuenevere and Eric have intelligence. Some of the ignorance in this thread was ridiculous.
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Eric, I love your avatar and siggy. I support Bush completely.
#33
Posted: 8/5/04 at 4:57pm
In my ideal world the movie would do well and encourage more movie musicals, but the show itself would be put out of my misery. Preferably now.
#34
Posted: 8/5/04 at 5:03pm
If the movie does well, I think it could help the show. Chicago (the movie) was a huge hit, and that fact is probably helping to keep the show open... I'd think it would've had some impact on increased interest in the show.
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#35
Posted: 8/5/04 at 5:05pm
There will also be an increase in outraged theatergoers demanding a refund because Gerard Butler wasn't there.
#36
Posted: 8/5/04 at 5:07pm
I am not a big fan of Phantom but I know a lot of people who are, or people who always say they want to see it because of it being a classic. My opinion on the movie is, that it will either A.) help the box office by getting more people to see the show, or B.) not have any influence on ticket sales at all because people will see the movie and not need to see the show.
To me the good parts of Phantom were the parts you didn't expect. If you've seen the movie, that might make the whol chandelier scene appear less "big" in the long run. I don't know, of course, for sure what it'll do but it will at least call attention the production. Whether or not the people will like the play after the movie, I don't know.
To me the good parts of Phantom were the parts you didn't expect. If you've seen the movie, that might make the whol chandelier scene appear less "big" in the long run. I don't know, of course, for sure what it'll do but it will at least call attention the production. Whether or not the people will like the play after the movie, I don't know.
And hang on, when did you win the discus?
#37
Posted: 8/5/04 at 5:09pm
that show is like a roach.. in the event of nuclear war, the only things to survive will be roaches and Phantom.
#38
Posted: 8/5/04 at 6:04pm
hopefully kill but probably revive. That show can't die fast enough...
Idina: Somehow I got myself to the stage, came out at the end of the show, and I had some kind of closure.
Some guy: You looked great!
Idina: Thanks...I WAS SO HIGH! 8/21/05
Some guy: You looked great!
Idina: Thanks...I WAS SO HIGH! 8/21/05
#39
Posted: 8/5/04 at 6:06pm
At least with roaches there's a scientific reason why. The appeal of Phantom, on the other hand, remains a mystery.
#40
Posted: 8/5/04 at 6:55pm
I think it will revive it. Remember when the show first came out? It was the Lion King of it's time. I love how people bash the most succesful shows all the time... appearently they're doing something right...
By the way, I'll be voting for bin Laden.
By the way, I'll be voting for bin Laden.
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#41
Posted: 8/5/04 at 8:24pm
Hon, if people bashed shows just for being successful, A Chorus Line wouldn't be as well-liked as it was, dontcha think? Not to mention that Les Miserables is pretty popular on this board, even among the "cognoscenti."
I saw Phantom with a completely open mind. No, worse- I expected to like it. It disappointed me horribly. It has nothing to do with its success or lack thereof; it has to do with its content.
I saw Phantom with a completely open mind. No, worse- I expected to like it. It disappointed me horribly. It has nothing to do with its success or lack thereof; it has to do with its content.
#42
Posted: 8/5/04 at 8:27pm
Revive it. And while Phantom is getting old, it still is better than a lot of shows.
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#43
Posted: 8/5/04 at 9:02pm
Penalers- Keep your thoughts to yourself.
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#44
Posted: 8/6/04 at 3:46am
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#45
Posted: 8/6/04 at 4:47pm
REVIVE IT!
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#46
Posted: 8/7/04 at 12:21am
I don't think anything will revive the overdone period Euro-musical on Broadway.....It's day has passed. Hip, younger, simpler shows like "Urinetown", "Rent" and "Avenue Q" and revivals seem to be what's working today. Oh, I forgot "Wicked"....haven't seen it yet. After my last trip to New York I raved to a woman about the delights of "Wonderful Town" and "Avenue Q" and was severly scolded by her for not seeing the witch musical.....and from what I see posted here..it seems the show has drawn a "bitch witch cult"...I'll pass....Back to the topic.....The movie "Chicago" drew people to the theater because it's cool, simple, with a great book and score, "Phantom" the movie will undoubtedly be full of special effects, explosions, and "chandelier chases" that can't be duplicated as effectively on stage for those who are attracted to that type of theatrical experieince.....Kill.
#47
Posted: 8/7/04 at 12:24am
Urinetown closed.
Again, I think the movie will boost ticket sales for the months the movie runs in the theater. However, after awhile, everything will go back to normal.
Again, I think the movie will boost ticket sales for the months the movie runs in the theater. However, after awhile, everything will go back to normal.
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#48
Posted: 8/7/04 at 12:39am
It's day has passed. Hip, younger, simpler shows like "Urinetown", "Rent" and "Avenue Q" and revivals seem to be what's working today.
First, revivals aren't working; most shutter quickly and lose their investments, which is a wonder as to why there are still so many being produced (but then, Broadway economics never made sense to me).
Second, Urinetown, Rent and Avenue Q are exceptional success stories; there have been many other musicals claiming to be "hip" and "young" that have closed quickly (Taboo comes to mind, although I don't think it was "simple"). I agree that it'd be great to see more of these smaller, edgier shows being produced, but I'd be a bit cautious about claiming that their time has come, because it's still early.
What is "working" these days are the Disney-manufactured shows like Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, and Aida (which, although closing, has made a healthy profit over the years despite all the initial negative publicity). I'll throw Wicked into this pile as well, since it follows a similar formula that Disney employs: huge, extravagant productions with a pop/rock score and a gimmicky "hook" that appeals to families and tourists. The "juke-box musicals" are also starting to dominate the scene.
Urinetown closed.
Urinetown didn't need the close, they chose to because they didn't want to move to another theatre (unless someone can correct me about this - I think Urinetown's financial situation was still pretty good when it closed.)
First, revivals aren't working; most shutter quickly and lose their investments, which is a wonder as to why there are still so many being produced (but then, Broadway economics never made sense to me).
Second, Urinetown, Rent and Avenue Q are exceptional success stories; there have been many other musicals claiming to be "hip" and "young" that have closed quickly (Taboo comes to mind, although I don't think it was "simple"). I agree that it'd be great to see more of these smaller, edgier shows being produced, but I'd be a bit cautious about claiming that their time has come, because it's still early.
What is "working" these days are the Disney-manufactured shows like Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, and Aida (which, although closing, has made a healthy profit over the years despite all the initial negative publicity). I'll throw Wicked into this pile as well, since it follows a similar formula that Disney employs: huge, extravagant productions with a pop/rock score and a gimmicky "hook" that appeals to families and tourists. The "juke-box musicals" are also starting to dominate the scene.
Urinetown closed.
Urinetown didn't need the close, they chose to because they didn't want to move to another theatre (unless someone can correct me about this - I think Urinetown's financial situation was still pretty good when it closed.)
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#49
Posted: 8/7/04 at 1:27am
"Again, I think the movie will boost ticket sales for the months the movie runs in the theater. However, after awhile, everything will go back to normal. "
This comment makes the most sense to me. No matter how good or bad, a movie almost always sinks into obscurity and the Blockbuster DVD racks in fairly short order.
This comment makes the most sense to me. No matter how good or bad, a movie almost always sinks into obscurity and the Blockbuster DVD racks in fairly short order.
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