"You'll See" question
"You'll See" question
#0"You'll See" question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:25pm
So, in "You'll See" (RENT, of course), there's this one part where Collins says: I like Boys and Angel says: Boys like me. Now does Angel mean "Boys are attracted to me" or "Boys such as myself"?
I really don't know why this is bothering me so much.
#1re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:27pmI think it's the former - that's how I took it...but I guess it could be either.
#2re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:29pmI have always wondered that myself.
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#3re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:33pmI always wanted to mean what you thought it meant. Larson seemed to like being able to look at things differently. Like the snow scene. Snow means so many different things to people depending who you are. So, I thought the ending of you'll see was very intentional.
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#4re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:34pmThat's hilarious - it's become a running gag for me and my friend, where I'll ask him that same question every time we hear the song (which used to be quite often...) Glad to know we're not the only ones...
If I lay here
If I just lay here
Would you lie with me and just forget the world?
If I just lay here
Would you lie with me and just forget the world?
#5re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:40pmWow, I never thought of it in the second way but that totally makes sense also. It's funny how once you get the meaning of a lyric in your head you will never think of it any other way until someone points it out...
Taylor the latte boy,
Bring me java, bring me joy!
Taylor the latte boy,
I love him, I love him, I love him
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#6re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:42pmI never thought of it like the second way. I guess there's no reason it couldn't be that, though.
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#7re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 5:43pmI've always assumed he meant the double meaning!
#8re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 6:04pm
I have always interpreted it as meaning that boys like him.
The other way does work though.
#9re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 6:15pmeither way. I like to think Angel is saying that Collins likes drag-queen boys... boys like him.
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#10re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 6:22pmI think it's an intentional play on words. And a good one, at that.
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#11re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:03pmHuh. I like that second interpretation. It's even cuter than the first! I never thought of it.
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#12re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:57pmI agree with mebice. I think it was intentionally ambiguous so it could go whatever way the listener wanted.
This is wanting something
This is reaching for it
This is wishing that a moment would arrive- LITP
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#13re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 9:47pmugh great now this is going to piss me off forever. I always thought it was the first way.
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#14re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 9:54pmhaha,wow,i never thought about it that way before,huh
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#15re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 9:58pmInteresting!
And the other thing about the Phantom Lady was, Bert, she realized, in the city that never sleeps...
What did she realize, Kitten?
That all the songs she'd listened to, all the love songs, that they were only songs.
What's wrong with that?
Nothing, if you don't believe in them. But she did, you see. She believed in enchanted evenings, and she believed that a small cloud passed overhead and cried down on a flower bed, and she even believed there was breakfast to be had...
Where?
On Pluto. The mysterious, icy wastes of Pluto.
#16re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 8/30/05 at 10:06pmYeah I never really thought about the second possible meaning mentioned but its interesting, the double meanings. I agree with the comment about it being however you, personally, interpret it.
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#17re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 1:20am
I can't see it as the second simply because of the way it's sung. If it were to mean the second meaning, the word "me" would need to be where the emphasis is (sing "boys like" as eigth notes and "me" as a quarter note, and that puts the emphasis on "me" - that's also how you would speak it if you meant it the second way, with the emphasis on "me"). However, with the rhythm as it is, it's pretty neutral on emphasis, but there's a slight pull towards "like", which is what happens if you say the sentence meaning it the first way.
That said, he probably meant it both ways and I'm just overanalyzing again.
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#18re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 1:24am
Hah,
Me and my friend just had ths debate a few months ago. Guess we'll never know.
Akiva
#19re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 11:46am
I took it as Tom starting to flirt with Angel. (I like boys (winking at Angel))
Then Angel is flirts back with Tom. (Boys like me (winking at Tom))
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#20re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 11:49amI took it as Collins likes boys, boys such as Angel
#21re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 11:58am
What's it called "double entendre" or something. However... I always thought Angel was saying that Boys like him... cause he's beautiful. It always struck me as a cute and totally flirty thing. IE.... catch me now Collins... cause I want YOU! :)
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#22re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 12:51pmit works both ways, although i always took it as "boys are attracted to me".
#23re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 1:06pm
i took it literally
boys like angel.
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#24re: 'You'll See' question
Posted: 9/1/05 at 1:14pm
I always thought of it as "boy are attracted to me" because of where the emphasis is. It's on "like". If the emphasis were on "me", I would think of it as "boys such as me". Because of the emphasis, the thought that it could be the latter never even crossed my mind.
I think the double meaning is pretty cool, though.
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