phantom of the opera should closed — Page 2
#27
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:08am
What would 'Phantom' closing have to do with making room for new shows? It's not like every theater is ever full on Broadway (although I guess it's possible there were points in history where every theater was full but not that I can recall.) Long running shows have nothing to do with new shows coming in, there's always a house waiting for a good show, regardless of how long 'Phantom of the Opera' runs.
#28
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:08am
Phantom was my kids's first Broadway experience. I'm glad it was there for them to see. If a show is making money and the quality hasn't suffered, keep it running as long as it can!
#29
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:08am
...should closED???
I am seeing the show for the first time October 24th in Cleveland. I am not sure what to expect.
I am seeing the show for the first time October 24th in Cleveland. I am not sure what to expect.
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#30
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:10am
Yes, I worry about the future of this board, and the world... The poor english that spews forth from our younger "swings" is deplorable, and embarrasing to read.
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#31
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:33am
LOL. I thought it was a typo, but then I read it again in the message...
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#32
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:42am
Personally, I think it should have never opened. It is one of the most laughably bad shows I've ever seen - I couldn't stand anything about it.
"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!"
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#33
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:51am
As long as it makes money, no show should close. There are still available theatres out there and other shows that are losing money will close, so there is no immediate shortage of space. Why put so many people out of work if the show is still making money? If the production is stale and is of poor quality, then by all means, the producers should clean it up (such as the case with Rent), but it's not a reason for closing a show. If the public hates the performance, then sales will slow down until it is forced to close. It happened to A Chorus Line, Cats and Les Miserables. Phantom will close when it is necessary.
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Updated On: 10/14/04 at 09:51 AM
#34
Posted: 10/14/04 at 10:01am
I think I will enjoy the technical aspects of the show the most.
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#35
Posted: 10/14/04 at 10:18am
Okay, you're totally entitled to your opinion, but why would they close the show when it's still one of the most popular shows on Broadway. It's almost never on TKTS and it still sells out quite often. It would be stupid to close a show that's still successful. And why would you have to "make room for more shows?" It's not exactly like there's a line of shows that can't get in because they need to use that particular theatre. I don't think there's any reason to close a show that so many people are still going to see.
Besides, they can't close it yet, because I haven't played Christine--and I"ve been planning that since I was 10 :)
Besides, they can't close it yet, because I haven't played Christine--and I"ve been planning that since I was 10 :)
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#36
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:28am
PHANTOM OF THE OPERA should close and make room for lousy shows like DRACULA? Are you kidding?? Making room for new shows is no reason for a successful show to close while it's still playing to nearly full houses.
Just because it's been running 16 years doesn't mean it should close. If it's not making money THEN it should close. If the audience loses its interest to the show THEN it should close.
There are plenty of other shows "coming and going" and keeping theatres available for new shows.
Just because it's been running 16 years doesn't mean it should close. If it's not making money THEN it should close. If the audience loses its interest to the show THEN it should close.
There are plenty of other shows "coming and going" and keeping theatres available for new shows.
#37
Posted: 10/14/04 at 11:55am
The Phantom of the Opera should never close, well not yet. As long as people are willing to see Sir Andrew's lloyd webber's musicial I said stay open I love the show and the music. And to tell you the truth it is still the highlight of broadway.
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Updated On: 10/14/04 at 11:55 AM
#38
Posted: 10/14/04 at 1:07pm
<< As long as people are willing to see Sir Andrew's lloyd webber's musicial I said stay open >>
Lord Lloyd Webber or Lord Lloyd-Webber or Andrew Lloyd Webber, Baron Lloyd-Webber of Sydmonton ----if ya want to be formal.
He stopped being a "Sir" after they made him a Lord.
I like the show too. May the chandelier continue to fall so long as anyone wants to see it.
Lord Lloyd Webber or Lord Lloyd-Webber or Andrew Lloyd Webber, Baron Lloyd-Webber of Sydmonton ----if ya want to be formal.
He stopped being a "Sir" after they made him a Lord.
I like the show too. May the chandelier continue to fall so long as anyone wants to see it.
#39
Posted: 10/14/04 at 1:55pm
I agree with those who say that shows shouldn't close just for new ones. I'm not a POTO fan but if it's doing well then why shouldn't it stay open? Tiny-Toon, no offense, but mock Ave Q and Wicked all you'd like but those are successful shows that will most likely outlive Brooklyn. For all of Wicked's problems, the main people I've seen take problems with it are hardcore theatre fans and some critics whereas I've seen many tourists and the other types of theatre goers really impressed by it.
As to RENT, it's getting really old that Rent should close because it's not what Larson originally wanted and all this crap. Broadway's a business and it's been that way before Rent came along and it's going to be that way once the show leaves. And if people are leaving the show inspired and touched by the music and the story then what's the problem? How is that wrong? It's not like the story and the music has been changed and fine, they threw in some celebrities but what Broadway show hasn't? Celebrities are nothing new to Broadway and Rent has to compete with every other show out there and the rest of the entertainment world and sometimes celebrities are needed to pull in different types of people to a show or put people back in the seats who have already seen it because fans don't pay the bills.
As to RENT, it's getting really old that Rent should close because it's not what Larson originally wanted and all this crap. Broadway's a business and it's been that way before Rent came along and it's going to be that way once the show leaves. And if people are leaving the show inspired and touched by the music and the story then what's the problem? How is that wrong? It's not like the story and the music has been changed and fine, they threw in some celebrities but what Broadway show hasn't? Celebrities are nothing new to Broadway and Rent has to compete with every other show out there and the rest of the entertainment world and sometimes celebrities are needed to pull in different types of people to a show or put people back in the seats who have already seen it because fans don't pay the bills.
#40
Posted: 10/14/04 at 5:21pm
I can understand why this show doesn't appeal to some people. But they should also understand that it appeals GREATLY to others. (If it didn't, it wouldn't still be playing successfully after all these years.) Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and I know mine disagree completely with others whose opinions I value on this board. Personally I think it has gorgeous music, beautiful sets and costumes, and a wonderful story full of romance, humor, and a little scaryness. (I'm not at all sure that's a real word - but 'terror' is way too strong for this show).
I'm delighted it's still playing and hope it continues to do so for a long time.
I'm delighted it's still playing and hope it continues to do so for a long time.
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#41
Posted: 10/14/04 at 5:26pm
Saying that it should stay open forever is a little extreme...for any show!
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#42
Posted: 10/14/04 at 6:12pm
Ok first: "It's almost never on TKTS and it still sells out quite often" the show is almost always on TKTS. I think it'd be very rare to go to tkts and/or the box office and not get a ticket for that night. *ok that was bothering me*
Secondly: I personally don't like POTO, but it doesnt seem to have a reason to close. They aren't using stunt casting (like rent), and it is a pretty profitable show especially after 15-16 years. The only thing that i truly hate about POTO is that it seems like a tourist attraction. Even the exterier seems like it's from a theme park (with the black painted bricks and the street lights). It's taking the attention away from a lot better shows, but still that isn't a major reason it should close. Let it play for as long as it is putting out great performaces and making profits.
Secondly: I personally don't like POTO, but it doesnt seem to have a reason to close. They aren't using stunt casting (like rent), and it is a pretty profitable show especially after 15-16 years. The only thing that i truly hate about POTO is that it seems like a tourist attraction. Even the exterier seems like it's from a theme park (with the black painted bricks and the street lights). It's taking the attention away from a lot better shows, but still that isn't a major reason it should close. Let it play for as long as it is putting out great performaces and making profits.
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#43
Posted: 10/14/04 at 6:44pm
The fact that the show is old, or a tourist attraction, or is filling up a theater that new shows could open in really plays absolutely no role in determining if the production should shutter.
Broadway shows open primarily to make money. Phantom is getting the job done quite well so the producers have absolutely no reason to close, regardless of people's opinions.
Broadway shows open primarily to make money. Phantom is getting the job done quite well so the producers have absolutely no reason to close, regardless of people's opinions.
#44
Posted: 10/14/04 at 7:54pm
NStar21, I am going to respond to what you put about RENT because I am pretty sure that was directed to me since I was the one that brought it up. Ok, here it goes ***breaths in loads of air***
Anyone on this board will tell you that I am a HUGE RENT fan. Infact, I am a RENThead tried and true. But, the reason I said that, is because the RENT on broadway is different than the RENT on tour in the matter of energy and exuberance. The people on broadway have played the parts so long that they are like robots. The ones on tour are fairly new to the parts so they are enjoying themselves, bringing so much energy and fun into the show. Also, I don't care what anyone says..........they should not have brought in famous people. No Way, No How. The show was meant to bring in new talent and expose them to the theatre going audience (that is why the original cast was unknowns). I think the producers have gotten so money hungry and not listening to the fans when they say that they do not like when famous people are in the show. I am probably alone on this, but that is how I feel. Now, if RENT does a whole makeover and go back to what the original cast and the creator was trying to do and life is brought back to the show on Broadway, I say let it run forever because I truly love this show. Until then, the tour is the closest thing you will get to the original.
***breaths out air***
Anyone on this board will tell you that I am a HUGE RENT fan. Infact, I am a RENThead tried and true. But, the reason I said that, is because the RENT on broadway is different than the RENT on tour in the matter of energy and exuberance. The people on broadway have played the parts so long that they are like robots. The ones on tour are fairly new to the parts so they are enjoying themselves, bringing so much energy and fun into the show. Also, I don't care what anyone says..........they should not have brought in famous people. No Way, No How. The show was meant to bring in new talent and expose them to the theatre going audience (that is why the original cast was unknowns). I think the producers have gotten so money hungry and not listening to the fans when they say that they do not like when famous people are in the show. I am probably alone on this, but that is how I feel. Now, if RENT does a whole makeover and go back to what the original cast and the creator was trying to do and life is brought back to the show on Broadway, I say let it run forever because I truly love this show. Until then, the tour is the closest thing you will get to the original.
***breaths out air***
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Updated On: 10/14/04 at 07:54 PM
#45
Posted: 10/14/04 at 8:26pm
"either bad, unsuccessful"
What??
Ahhammm (WICKED).. Ahaaam (Avenue Q).. Ahhaammm
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Ahhammm (MAMMA MIA!).. Ahaaam (HAIRSPRAY).. Ahhaamm (MOVIN' OUT). Neither of these shows actually took thought (with the exception of the choreography in Movin Out).
What??
Ahhammm (WICKED).. Ahaaam (Avenue Q).. Ahhaammm
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Ahhammm (MAMMA MIA!).. Ahaaam (HAIRSPRAY).. Ahhaamm (MOVIN' OUT). Neither of these shows actually took thought (with the exception of the choreography in Movin Out).
#46
Posted: 10/14/04 at 8:43pm
I am not a fan of Phantom and I think it should close. While most of the new shows that have come to Broadway lately have not been good, perhaps this would make room for a good show. I also think the Majestic could use a renovation. It's looking pretty beat up.
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#47
Posted: 10/14/04 at 8:49pm
how did Hairspray not take any thought?
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#48
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:15pm
Phantom shouldn't close. It's still pulling in money. What about shows like Wonderful Town, Dracula, and Bombay Dreams? Those shows are having a hard time recouping their investment, and may never be able to. Why not have those shows close then to make room? Obviously, Phantom has been a success and if the theatergoer will see it, then I say keep it open.
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#49
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:40pm
ok i think if poto closed that means that all the shows now on broadway can get ahead.
#50
Posted: 10/14/04 at 9:56pm
POTO closing isn't going to cause another show to "go ahead".
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