Éponine vs. Elphaba

#1

Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:07pm

Because they both begin with E's.

Recently I was fighting with my friend over who has a better story. I said Eponine, she said Elphaba.

What do you all think?

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#2

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:08pm

Eva Peron?

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#3

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:09pm

Eponine dies. Elphaba has a chance for a sequel.

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#4

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:11pm

by better, I mean more interesting....more worthy....

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#5

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:13pm

although I really like Elphaba's story and I think it is a creative story with a nice twist.. and it is amazing how they took such a hated role and made her so loved.. I think Eponine's story in Les Mis is one of my all time fav stories. just the because its so sweet how she does anything for the man she loves even if he doesn't love her in return and she's just so happy and peaceful to be in his arms when she is dieing.. I think a little fall of rain is one of the pretties songs out there. Its just got a spot in my heart and its one of my all time fav characters.

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#6

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:13pm

Tough, but I feel Eponine's characteriztion in the musical's context is really quite cliche at times. While being a ground-breaking character in musical theatre, I think its safe to say Elphaba has the stronger upperhand.
Elphaba is more developed and stronger.

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#7

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:13pm

Ponine. Has the better nickname, better crush, better death- oh right. SHE DIES AND STAYS DEAD.

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#8

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:14pm

I don't know Les Miz (shoot me now), so I'll say Elphaba.

#9

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:14pm

Hmmm. LesMis has been my favorite musical for years. I haven't seen Wicked yet, but I have tickets for Dec. 26th. I've read the book though and know the music. I'm beginning to think Wicked might become my new favorite musical. Elphaba is a great character. Eponine has a great song, but she's just a love sick girl. Elphaba is more complex than that. I think I'll have to go with Elphaba.

#10

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:18pm

Eponine. Hands down.

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"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."

The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.

#11

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:20pm

I have never disliked the Wicked Witch. Dorothy, to me, as always been a spoiled little bitch who always gets her way.

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"I've often said I should put sweets in my chair - they'd spend less time on my a** that way....." ~F.W.B.

#12

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:20pm

I'd have to go with Eponine

#13

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:20pm

I CAN'T CHOOSE!

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#14

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:25pm

I really can't see how anyone can consider this a contest. Eponine. There's no comparison.

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#15

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:28pm

oh. I thought this was gonna be some sort of smackdown contest between the two...

#16

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:29pm

The answer is obvious: Eponine.

#17

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:35pm

Zepka, allow me to choose for you.

I get two votes now! and guess who I choose?

#18

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:37pm

i have no idea...

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#19

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:39pm

How exactly do you define "better"?
Elphaba would certainly be considered the more fortunate one. And the more developed character of the two. She is also a main character, whereas Eponine plays what is basically a supporting role. All that being said, Eponine has always been my favorite character on stage. So I don't really know what to say. It depends on what you mean by better.

#20

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/6/04 at 11:42pm

Can we go by the books as well as the musicals?

#21

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/7/04 at 12:00am

Look up, I defined better.

Yes, use the books....to confuse that little girls who want to say:

OMG ELPHIE I LUV HER IDENA OMG I LUVTHEM ALLLL

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"I've often said I should put sweets in my chair - they'd spend less time on my a** that way....." ~F.W.B.

#22

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/7/04 at 12:02am

Musical: Eppie

Book: Draw

There.

#23

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/7/04 at 12:07am

this is silly. the answer is none of the above. they both suck...

#24

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/7/04 at 12:08am

I have to go with Elphaba. Ive had a thing for the Wicked Witch since I was little--back when Wicked wasnt even a thought. Gotta stick to my roots. Hah.

#25

re: Éponine vs. Elphaba

Posted: 12/7/04 at 12:13am

Eponine, fo shizzle (even though her main song has been OVERPLAYED. )

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