"soundtrack" NOT proper term
#2
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:17pm
You're Welcome. And yes, CAST RECORDING!
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#3
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:18pm
LOL. MOST of us know this...but thanks for the reminder!
CCM '10!
#4
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:19pm
THANK you Hak. THANK YOU. It drives me CRAZY. (Right, Spidey?)
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#5
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:20pm
thanks for the reminder but I learned my lesson a while back *cringes*
#6
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:22pm
Yes, Tiff....you CAST RECORDING calling nazi you.
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#7
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:23pm
Come now people, let's not get all uppity. I worked on cruise ships for a while and I would hate when people referred to it as a "boat" but they meant no harm and neither do the people writing "soundtrack".
#8
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:23pm
guys,PLEASE,really just get over this one-don't you have better things to worry about?
#9
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:26pm
Yeah, because 15 threads on the main page arguing on the autograph signing ability of Wicked stars are more worthwhile than learning the very basics of Broadway music discussion.
"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)
"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater
"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater
"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
#10
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:31pm
I could live without either,thanks-and if you cast back(no pun intended),you'll find at least 15 threads on this subject,too.Everyone knows what the unenlightened newjacks mean when they say soundtrack-do you just enjoy correcting people?
#11
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:38pm
Popular, the desire for people to correctly refer to an Original Cast Album isn't "uppity," it's a practical consideration.
Say I just met you, and we were talking about theatre. You say to me "I LOVE the Soundtrack from EVITA!"
What you're saying is that you love Madonna's version of EVITA. Which may be the truth. But if you DON'T love Madonna's version of EVITA, and you prefer Patti LuPone's, you've confused me by your misuse of rather simple terminology, and I go away from this conversation with serious qualms about your personal taste.
See? "Original Cast Album," kids. Learn it, live it, love it.
Say I just met you, and we were talking about theatre. You say to me "I LOVE the Soundtrack from EVITA!"
What you're saying is that you love Madonna's version of EVITA. Which may be the truth. But if you DON'T love Madonna's version of EVITA, and you prefer Patti LuPone's, you've confused me by your misuse of rather simple terminology, and I go away from this conversation with serious qualms about your personal taste.
See? "Original Cast Album," kids. Learn it, live it, love it.
#12
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:46pm
Veuve, that was perhaps the greatest post I've read all month.
I go away from this conversation with serious qualms about your personal taste.
Indeed.
I go away from this conversation with serious qualms about your personal taste.
Indeed.
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The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#13
Posted: 1/17/05 at 7:54pm
"Popular, the desire for people to correctly refer to an Original Cast Album isn't "uppity," it's a practical consideration."
OK, I'll give you that. Perhaps "uppity" isn't the best word I could've chosen. I personally understand the difference between the two but I humbly apologize in the name of all of the practically inconsiderate that don't.
"you've confused me by your misuse of rather simple terminology"
It's only simple if you've been exposed to it before. And yes, I do like Madonna's version and I'm sorry if that offends you too.
Like I meant to say before...c'mon, let's lighten up a little.
OK, I'll give you that. Perhaps "uppity" isn't the best word I could've chosen. I personally understand the difference between the two but I humbly apologize in the name of all of the practically inconsiderate that don't.
"you've confused me by your misuse of rather simple terminology"
It's only simple if you've been exposed to it before. And yes, I do like Madonna's version and I'm sorry if that offends you too.
Like I meant to say before...c'mon, let's lighten up a little.
#14
Posted: 1/17/05 at 8:33pm
The reason I am a stickler for calling a cast album just that is because there is a very specific historical reason that is special for Broadway.
When cast albums were first released it was the days before long-playing records. So instead of being on one 33 1/3, the cast album was a seires of 78s, packaged together tightly like an "album."
That's where the term comes from and I think it is important that we keep it because a sound"track" is generally just taken from what is done in the studio. But cast albums are capturing a bit of a performance that happens eight times a week every week live.
So cast album is a nod to the fact that it is something unique that goes back way before the soundtrack.
Just another thing that makes Broadway special that we should appreciate.
When cast albums were first released it was the days before long-playing records. So instead of being on one 33 1/3, the cast album was a seires of 78s, packaged together tightly like an "album."
That's where the term comes from and I think it is important that we keep it because a sound"track" is generally just taken from what is done in the studio. But cast albums are capturing a bit of a performance that happens eight times a week every week live.
So cast album is a nod to the fact that it is something unique that goes back way before the soundtrack.
Just another thing that makes Broadway special that we should appreciate.
#15
Posted: 1/17/05 at 8:34pm
I agree with hak. It's a simple matter of educating people who misuse a term. It's similar to when I hear someone say "I could have went." Just like past participles, there are also cast albums (original, Broadway, new, London, etc.) and the term soundtrack should not take their place. Accuse me of being pedantic, but please not lacking a sense of humor (two different things.)
#16
Posted: 1/17/05 at 8:38pm
Hak - since you are a stickler - is there a spellcheck available for these messages?
#17
Posted: 1/17/05 at 8:41pm
Ah. Quick way to piss off any theatre OR film geek. Of which I am both. Yes. Learn the distinction, people. I don't think it's uppity. It bears repeating as long as there are people continually getting it wrong.
#19
Posted: 1/17/05 at 9:03pm
Aw, Popular, I'm not offended by you at all! In fact, you gave me a big chuckle with your clever wordplay in that last post ("practically inconsiderate").
I was floating a hypothetical scenario to underline my opinions -- I didn't mean to be personally snippy towards you. I was just shooting for a humorous way to illustrate my point. I apologize if it came across as humor at your expense -- I honestly didn't intend it that way.
I was floating a hypothetical scenario to underline my opinions -- I didn't mean to be personally snippy towards you. I was just shooting for a humorous way to illustrate my point. I apologize if it came across as humor at your expense -- I honestly didn't intend it that way.
#20
Posted: 1/17/05 at 9:31pm
Amen. It always bothers me when I go into stores and all the Cast Recording are under the "Soundtrack" section... I guess the general population isn't quite as informed as us!!! =P
#21
Posted: 1/17/05 at 9:40pm
Well there we go! All this thread needed was a big chuckle. :)
I wasn't offended, just DEfending the ones who ....well, it doesn't matter much now, they probably ran away as fast as they could anyway.
Group hug, yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't offended, just DEfending the ones who ....well, it doesn't matter much now, they probably ran away as fast as they could anyway.
Group hug, yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#22
Posted: 1/17/05 at 9:45pm
No, it's because there usually isn't enough room to have both a soundtrack AND a "show" section, and we all know that Broadway CD's aren't one of the top selling. I really do think that people who get so irritated by the inadvertant use of "soundtrack" are perhaps a little too uptight and should focus their worries on more prominant issues. I see where people like veuve are coming from - but let's be serious. You're talking about an Evita CD, not how to end world hunger. In the end, is it really all that important? If someone says "I love the WICKED soundtrack," you know exactly what they're talking about. Obviously, the correct term is "cast recording," but it's clear what they mean. People don't need to act so uptight and get so angry or annoyed over such a word. And before those criticize others that might use the evil word "soundtrack," they better make sure that their own posts are as damn close to perfection as they can get before being picky about word choice - especially when you know what they're saying to begin with.
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#23
Posted: 1/17/05 at 10:15pm
I get it, but don't get all bent out of shape. I mean, in the playbill for "Brooklyn," under Ramona Keller's bio, it says she's on the "'SOUNDTRACK' to 'Caroline, or Change'". It's okay, just breath...the world will not end.
-Vincent
-Vincent
#24
Posted: 1/18/05 at 12:17am
Who's acting so uptight or angry about the misuse of that word? I think Hak did a good job of educating the newbies on this simple and common error. Hell, I learned it the hard way too on my very first post on a Broadway forum. The only people sounding uppity and uptight are the ones who bitch on here about why don't we have anything better to do than correct people. And yes, I do enjoy correcting people. Especially when I'm right.
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"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater
"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
#25
Posted: 1/18/05 at 12:19am
Where's Dollypop?
This is his favorite subject. Quick..someone find him!
This is his favorite subject. Quick..someone find him!
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