Lizzie - the next mounting needs your head outline on the logo as well to add character.
Damn, Lizzie - you're quick! I can't even get my applications to load that fast.
(Or is this something you just happened to have already?)
No, I have one of these.
http://www.apple.com/imac/intelcoreduo.html
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Very nice avatar, Lizzie. Thumbs up here: - )
BWF...
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Lizzie what is your Avatar?
Also, is that Cosette in the Les Miz logo?
It's me, sort of.
I made it here: http://illustmaker.abi-station.com/index_en.shtml
Also, is that Cosette in the Les Miz logo?
Are you serious?
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Kind of. I was always positive it was her, and in fact on the bottom of the Les Miz website it said it was her. But then a friend pointed out to me that it looked more like Eponine and it made me question what I thought.
I'm sure he is, since he asked. I've never known, either. I know it's a girl... but how many girls are there in the show? I've always assume it's Eponine.
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It says this at the bottom of the website
©2005 Cameron Mackintosh Overseas Limited. Cosette logo and the words Les Misérables are the registered trademarks of Cameron Mackintosh Overseas Limited. No portion of this website may be reproduced, distributed, or posted. All Rights Reserved.
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The girl in the Les Mis logo is Cosette. Eponine is a ratheri insignicant character...
And, yeah, I knew about the logo because I've seen The Making of MS ten thousand times.
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It is taken from a famous drawing by Emile Bayard that was made to go along with the original edition of the novel, as seen here:
It was NOT made specifically for the show! If you are truly interested, do a Google Image Search to see other illustrations made by Monsieur Bayard to coincide with Les Miserables.
Look at the bottom of the page for more Les Miz illustrations
SporkGoddess- Eponine most certainly is not an insignificant character. Have you even read the book/seen the show? How can you say that if you have?
Anyway- I always saw the face and helicopter in the MISS SAIGON logo. Brilliant I always LOVED the LES MIZ and ASPECTS OF LOVE logo, too.
Eponine is far more insignificant in the book than she is in the musical.
I always saw both
Very true, if you want to look at Eponine that way, Lizzie.
As much as I love Eponine in both the novel and the show, I agree with Lizzie. She is a tertiary character at best.
However, Les Amis de l'ABC are far more fleshed out in the novel. Probably why I love them so!
I've always assumed they used Cosette for the logo because she connects someone to someone in the story, sort of a "six degress of Cosette" type of thing.
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Eponine IS insignificant: it's why the movie adaptations always cut her out. You can always have Gavroche or someone find where Cosette lives. In the book she doesn't even deliver that letter.
And yes, my Les Mis novel has that picture on the cover.
SporkGoddess, in the book Eponine does lead Marius to Cosette's house, but she doesn't deliver the letter that Marius sends to Cosette from the barricades. I believe Gavroche actually does that. I'm pretty bummed that Cosette's character (in the show) wasn't fleshed out more (unlike Eponine) and she's an even more important character.
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Er... uh...that's what I said. She doesn't deliver the letter in the book.
And, yeah, it's sad how Cosette gets treated in the musical. She needs some big show-stopper like "On My Own" and then random fangirls would love her, too!
Gavroche delivers Marius's letter to Cosette, but is intercepted by Valjean. However, Cosette write a letter of her own that she gives to Eponine to deliver. Eponine decides not do, but tells Marius that the letter is in her pocket when she is dying. She asks him to wait until she is dead to read it, which he does.
Eponine is certainly a striking figure in the novel, but she acts more as the feminine impact of poverty than anything else. She is a girl who should've been more but was reduced to the dregs of society as a result of circumstance. She may not be an essential part of the plot, but she is an essential character study in Hugo's view of humanity.
Yeah, um, I always saw a sailboat . . . must be the New England in me.
*hides*
never saw either of them
I've always thought that the little portion of "In My Life" that Cosette sings before Valjean interrupts her, should have been her big song. This could have been the opportunity for the audience to get to know Cosette and her demons. After all, she knows nothing of her past, has lost her mother, and was abused by the Thenardiers. I'm just saying that Cosette's character could have been more interesting and should not be villified because she (and not Eponine) ends up with Marius. I understand that in the original London production there was "I Saw Him Once" but that was just a snippet and it was also about Marius. It's almost as if Cosette merely exists (in the show) for the sake of Marius.
Cosette in the show has always bothered me. She is such a wonderfully realized and charming character in the novel. In the stage show, she does nothing but annoy the hell out of me.
Although I deeply love "I Saw Him Once."
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