DD and OCC, no Tony
#1DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 1:08am
What performers have been nominated for both the Drama Desk and Outer Critics Circle awards in the same season but didn't get a Tony nomination, or won both but didn't win the Tony? Some of the more egregious that come to mind are Raul Esparza (Company) and Robert Cuccioli (Jekyll and Hyde) not winning and Daniel Radcliffe (How to Succeed) not getting nominated.
#3DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 1:29am
From last year alone, these performers won the Drama Desk and Outer Critics Circle Awards and didn't win the Tony:
Outstanding Actor in a Musical: Danny Burstein, Fiddler on the Roof
Outstanding Featured Actor in a Musical: Christopher Fitzgerald, Waitress
Outstanding Featured Actress in a Musical: Jane Krakowski, She Loves Me
Outstanding Featured Actor in a Play: Michael Shannon, Long Day's Journey Into Night
#4DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 2:07am
True, although that's because Hamilton was ineligible for the prior awards last year because it was judged the previous year for its Off-Broadway production.
#5DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 3:30am
Tell that to Michael Shannon! ![]()
Laura Benanti won the Drama Desk and Outer Critics Circle for Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown. She didn't win the Tony. Still one of the funniest performances I've ever seen.
#6DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 4:31am
Others from the past 20 years who have won DD and OCC but not Tony:
Robert Fairchild, An American in Paris
Danny Burstein, Follies
Tracie Bennett, End of the Rainbow
Montego Glover, Memphis
Brian d'Arcy James, Shrek
Haydn Gwynne, Billy Elliot
Martha Plimpton, The Coast of Utopia
Boyd Gaynes, Journey's End
Jim Dale, The Threepenny Opera
Brían F. O'Byrne, Doubt
Donna Murphy, Wonderful Town
Antonio Banderas, Nine
Eddie Izzard, A Day in the Death of Joe Egg
Marla Schaffel, Jane Eyre
Stephen Spinella, James Joyce's The Dead
Kevin Anderson, Death of a Salesman
Tsidii Le Loka, The Lion King
Allison Janney, A View From the Bridge
Joel Grey, Chicago
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#8DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 9:54am
Among all the people who have won the DD and OCC, but lost the Tony when nominated, I think the list people are more interested in are ones that beat out the eventual Tony winner at the DD and OCC, but then lost to them at the Tonys. Like Chenoweth beat out an eligible Kelli O'Hara at the OCC and won the DD when Kelli O'Hara wasn't even nominated at the DD, but then ended up losing to O'Hara at the Tonys.
Another Chenoweth example, she was nominated for OCC and DD but lost a Tony nomination to some say Deborah Monk who was up for Best Featured Actress at the DD but not nominated at the OCC or Laura Bell Bundy who was nominated for the DD but not the OCC.
#10DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 10:27am
Montego Glover and Catherine Zeta Jones tied both the OCC and DD in 2010. (Has that ever happened otherwise?) CZJ won the Tony.
#11DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 10:58am
Off the top of my head, I believe Antonio Banderas and Harvey Fierstein tied at DD (Banderas won OCC) and Marla Schaffel and Christine Ebersole tied at OCC (Schaffel won DD).
From that list, among others, Tsidii Le Lola beat the eventual Tony winner at both DD and OCC (Audra McDonald).
Joel Grey wasn't nominated due to unfortunate category placement at the Tonys.
#12DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 11:06am
Yeah I remember Banderas and Fierstein tying for the DD. And of course there have been ties at the Tonys (Leslie Uggams and Patricia Routledge back in the sixties). But I can't think of another instance in which the same two performers tied at both the OCC and DD.
pupscotch
Broadway Star Joined: 1/24/16
#13DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 11:17am
Unfortunately, Andy Karl is probably going to join this group in 5 days.
#14DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 11:24am
pupscotch said: "Unfortunately, Andy Karl is probably going to join this group in 5 days."
He also won the Olivier. That's a small list to compile if true.
#15DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 12:08pm
Donna Murphy for LOVEMUSIK is another one. Won the OCC, tied with Audra (110 IN THE SHADE) for DD, and lost to ebersole at the Tonys
MadsonMelo
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/24/14
#16DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 2:40pm
I don't think it's worth of a notice unless both performers are eligible for the three awards at the same year.
Those are the examples from the 90's to Today:
- LEAD ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL:
Kristin Chenoweth - On the Twentieth Century (lost to Kelli O'Hara)
Donna Murphy - Wonderful Town (lost to Idina Menzel)
- FEATURED ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL:
Laura Benanti - Women on a Verge of a Nervous Breakdown (lost to Nikki M. James)
Haydn Gwynne - Billy Elliot the Musical (lost to Karen Olivo)
Tsidii Le Loka - The Lion King (lost to Audra McDonald)
- LEAD ACTOR IN A MUSICAL:
Danny Burstein - Follies (lost to Steve Kazee)
Brian d’Arcy James - Shrek the Musical (lost to the 3 boys playing Billy, but I guess they weren't eligible for the DD and OCC, right?)
Raul Esparza - Company (lost to David Hyde Pierce)
Robert Cuccioli - Jekyll and Hyde (lost to James Naughton)
- FEATURED ACTOR IN A MUSICAL:
Jim Dale - The Threepenny Opera (lost to Christian Hoff)
Stephen Spinella – James Joyce’s The Dead (lost to Boyd Gaines)
Joel Grey – Chicago (lost to Chuck Cooper)
- ACTOR IN A PLAY:
Brian F. O’Byrne - Doubt (lost to Bill Irwin)
Eddie Izzard – A Day in the Death of Joe Egg (lost to Brian Dennehy)
- FEATURED ACTOR IN A PLAY:
Michael Shannon - Long Day’s Journey Into Night (lost to a non-nominated Reed Birney)
Ned Beatty - Cat on a Hot Tin Hoff (he was not even nominated)
Kevin Anderson – Death of a Salesman (to a non-nominated Frank Wood for Side Man)
As far as my research goes, no woman in the both play categories won both DD and OCC and lost to an also eligible woman in the same year. So, will Linney keep the streak or will Metcalf be the first to put Linney on this list?
#17DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 3:10pm
Martha Plimpton won both and lost the Tony to her castmate Jennifer Ehle (Ehle was not nominated for either DD or OCC).
MadsonMelo
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/24/14
#18DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 3:32pm
Jennifer Ehle was considered LEAD for COAST OF UTOPIA in both DD and OCC (and got the nom for the latter), then she was FEATURED at the Tony. It's a different scenario.
#19DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 3:35pm
Got it. I don't remember that situation, but I do remember thinking Martha Plimpton would finally get a Tony. Ah well.
Jarethan
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
#20DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/6/17 at 5:23pm
pupscotch said: "Unfortunately, Andy Karl is probably going to join this group in 5 days.
Of course, he won because Ben Platt had not been eligible this year. His competition for the Olivier was pretty weak.
Wayman_Wong
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
#21DD and OCC, no Tony
Posted: 6/7/17 at 12:24am
Ben Platt was eligible last year for a Drama Desk, but did not get NOMINATED. Nor was ''Dear Evan Hansen'' nominated for Best Musical either. It received 3 Drama Desk nominations total: Featured Actress (Rachel Bay Jones) and Projection Design, both of which it lost, and Lyrics, which Benj Pasek & Justin Paul won.
As for Andy Karl's competition for the Olivier Award being ''pretty weak,'' you're absolutely wrong. Charlie Stemp, the acclaimed star of ''Half a Sixpence'' and the London hometown guy, was the heavy favorite to win. I Googled and found three London pundits' Olivier predictions, and they all agreed Stemp would prevail.
Mark Shenton of The Stage wrote: ''A very hard category to call, with four virtuoso performances that all deserve recognition. But youth will win: Charlie Stemp, who is just 23, will take the award for a sensational West End debut that looks as effortless as it is lovable.''
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