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#51

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:07am

Agreed BluCat.

But, I do wonder if some of the humor would be lost with an black Glinda. The character is such a stereotype of the ditzy, blonde waspish girl, and I don't know if it would play as well without the ditzy, blonde, waspish girl.

By the by, this topic was discussed at some length a few months back if you want additional insight: https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.cfm?thread=887970&boardname=bway

"You just can't win. Ever. Look at the bright side, at least you are not stuck in First Wives Club: The Musical. That would really suck. " --Sueleen Gay

Updated On: 5/20/06 at 02:07 AM

#52

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:21am

I don't even care of being accused a racist because as whoever said it, color bling casting is impractical.

A white or asian "Raisin in the sun" or "Color Purple", please. You know it would be ridiculous.

Or a non white Oklahoma......it wouldn't work.

And lets face it folks, anyone who goes in and sees a non pinky skinned Glinda will have a hard time believing her. We grew up with Glinda being white, and as Wicked feeds off the success of The Wizard of Oz shamelessly (and thats what draws its audience) they know they have to copy the classic looks as much as possible. I never saw the big deal about TWOZ, so you could throw me a midget indian Glinda and I'd go with it, but most wouldn't.

To the original poster, this was a good question but more so as to why there was a different Glinda in the finale. The backlash was mainly those who were afraid to sound un P.C but really probably think it anyway.

#53

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:29am

OMG maybe before posting we should read previous postings...this is becoming redundant and frankly I don't see anyone REALLY disagreeing here. It works for a lot of cases, some it doesn't. I don't think anyone's going to get called racist for that. Although I don't get the non-white Oklahoma...

HOwever something to think about...IF there were a black Glinda, I'd imagine her like the black girl from Clueless. I haven't seen the movie but once so I don't know the characters names. WASPY is kind of the wrong connotation for Glinda. That's such a dated term anyway. I see Glinda as a Valley Girl. California/Elle Woods. I could see a black girl pulling that off. It'd just require someone who respects the text and doesn't turn her into Ghetto Fabulous Glinda. THAT would be wrong. THe other way I could buy it.

Updated On: 5/20/06 at 02:29 AM

#54

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:30am

I dont know why, but I would LOVE to see an African American or Asian Roger and/or Mark in RENT.

I would also like to see more Mimis actually look freeken Hispanic! That would be nice since that is the only role in the show that actually says that they are a particular race.

"I've always secretly longed for an actress to get to the top of the cherry picker and projectile vomit all over the guards below."- Wonderwaiter in the "Defy Gravity?" thread. ~~~~~~~~My dream? Sutton Foster as Cassie in A Chorus Line

#55

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:30am

Dionne.

"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

#56

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:44am

Loved her.

#57

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 3:27am

I'm sorry to point this out, but myself, like millions of Americans have been brought up seeing "The Wizard Of Oz" countless times, just like "Star Wars" or anything legendary. And it turns out that we all have seen a white Glinda. I happen to be very attracted to black people, so I can promise that this is not a case of rasism, it's moreso a case of a predomanatly white audience not knowing why someone they've seen since their early years looking "different". Yeah, it sucks, but it's the truth. (And hey, on the bright side, atleast a black Glinda could marry a white Fiero! Not so much luck for Fiero and Boq...) So calm down, and realize that it's not racism, it's money.

If Lincoln were alive today, do you think he'd be pleased with his tunnel?

#58

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 4:25am

I'm waiting for the robot Glinda. When will the robots get their turn to shine?

#59

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 5:58am

Your mother is mistaken. I was at that performance and I know for a fact that Dioni Michelle Collins was in her regular track. Stacie was also on that night. Kate loprest and Erin Mackey undertstudy Glinda, so one of them would have gone on.
Plus Dioni understudies Madame Morrible.

#60

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 7:17am

Well, you never know, it could have been the lighting that made her look black then white!

Just because I got the lead doesn't mean you can't be my understudy!:)

#61

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 8:14am

Please don't say Othello and Wicked in the same sentence, that's just blasphemous.

"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
To Kill A Mockingbird

#62

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 9:49am

You could fit the word "think" in that somehow. If not, Schwartz's rhyme schemes are so random, I doubt that anyone would ever notice.

Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!

#63

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 10:49am

"I'm not racist so don't call me that"
"I happen to be very attracted to black people so..."

I love these statements. It's like the old "hey, some of my best friends are black (or some other minority).
I don't know enough about any of the posters to claim they are racist. But some of the comments sure SEEM racist. And just by saying "I'm not racist" doesn't make it true. Few people who are racist run around saying "I'm a racist".

#64

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 11:14am

I also think the "I'm not racist, really!" lines are funny.

Come on, we can judge for ourselves by the post.

"Black people are great. I'm not racist!" -Clearly not racist

"Black people should stay out of theatre all together. By the way, I have sex with black men." -Just a little racist

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#65

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 11:19am

Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes....
Doesn't mean we go around committing hate cr--i-i-i--mes

"You just can't win. Ever. Look at the bright side, at least you are not stuck in First Wives Club: The Musical. That would really suck. " --Sueleen Gay

Updated On: 5/20/06 at 11:19 AM

#66

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 11:22am

I think everyone is overintellectualizing this...

Someday, I'm sure there will be a black Galinda, and everyone will go hey look there's a black Galinda, fancy that...ahahahaha she said the artichoke is steamed...get it cause, Elphaba is mad...and Green! ahahahaha

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#67

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 1:19pm

Personally, I think a black G[a]linda would not be so much of a problem - especially for younger teen audiences.

Maybe it is because I grew up in LA, but Glinda seems to me a type, not a color. Wealthy, privileged and totally unaware of others around her. And, though I personally don't like the look, I have seen some blonde black women. Isn't Beyonces hair basically blond right now?

And, actually, it might be interesting to see if the story shifts with it actually being cast colorblind (except for the green of course, kind of have to stick with that).

How about Beyonce As Glinda? (and only partically joking)

Updated On: 5/20/06 at 01:19 PM

#68

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 1:29pm

I think color-blind casting is a wondreful thing, but it must be done with some forethought. I (a white guy) played Fezziwig in A Christmas Carol, and my wife was also a white lady. Our children were black, white, and Asian. The audience was left with only one conclusion to draw - Mrs. Fezziwig was a whore.

And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."

Updated On: 5/20/06 at 01:29 PM

#69

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 1:31pm

Or, that they were adopted.

#70

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 1:39pm

The best GLINDA ever was black: Miss Lena Horne

re: A Black Glinda?

End of discussion.

#71

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 1:54pm

Or, that they were adopted.

No, she was a whore.

And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."

#72

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:06pm

Maybe a barren whore?

Seriously, the first thing that came to my mind was that they had adopted the kids. But, that must be my commie-pinko leftist LA upbringing!

You're right, she must have been a whore.

Updated On: 5/20/06 at 02:06 PM

#73

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:09pm

hehehehehe

And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."

#74

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:12pm

I got bored so here you go JerseyGirl2.

Why the hell are we arguing over a statement made by X x Fiyero x X?

Please remember this is the same person who said that Elphaba "had the nerve" to pretend she was flying.

Updated On: 5/20/06 at 02:12 PM

#75

re: A Black Glinda?

Posted: 5/20/06 at 2:29pm

and theres always this topic...
Black Glinda

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