A Memo to Straight Women Seeking A Gay Male Friend

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:06am

Ah... this made my weekend.
Read it here.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:17am

that was fun & i agree with a lot of it!

but he's a bit dippy if he really believes that beards havent been used in LA since the 50s!

[Mamie]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:30am

He's also a bit dippy if he thinks people aren't ALWAYS going to try and fix him up. It has absolutely nothing to do with being gay. They never stop trying to fix up their single straight friends too - no matter how many times they're asked not to.

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:33am

I find it so obnoxious that straight folks feel that every person NEEDS to have a romantic partner in order to lead a full, happy and complete life. But I understand it. That's how we're raised, unfortunately.

[misschung]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:35am

That's true, Mamie. I love when people who claim to 'know you best' set you up - its always fun to see what they bring out of the woodwork, hehe

This memo is funny, though. I do kind of hate the whole "gay male friend made to order" thing that's happened post - Will and Grace. When I was a freshman in college, I mentioned to one of my girlfriends that I had a friend who is gay, she said, "Oooo, I want one!"

It's not a ferbie, people...

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:42am

I've always loathed seeing women at gay bars. I've never seen Sex and the City and sorry I find it strange people name themselves after it.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:46am

"I've always loathed seeing women at gay bars."

You've got serious issues.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:47am

Call me crazy but I think ALL people should be welcome at ALL bars.

[blueroses]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:48am

Can someone post the article? I am at work and it's blocked.

What's the big deal about a woman going to a gay bar? Maybe she's just hanging out with friends and doesn't feel like getting hit on.
Updated On: 6/22/07 at 10:48 AM

[Unknown User]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:49am

one thing i hate WILL & GRACE for is that my co-workers (mostly str8 women) often tell me that i'm not "really" gay & the reason is they compare me to JACK... i guess that character is the standard of what we are "supposed" to be?

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:02am

What is the point of his post?

It sounds to me like this guy can't handle his own life, so he needs to go to 'craig's list' and post and rant.

'JACKPOT!'

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:04am

Well, there is a Rant section on Craigslist so I guess that's what it was intended for. But clearly, mejust wants to prove that if we don't read them over there, they'll follow us over here.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:07am

Everyone is welcome at gay bars, it just seems pointless to me. It's not an exclusive club, but it isn't a place I go for a good time with the ladies. It’s a real mood killer. I wouldn't take my best girlfriend to a place where public groping is commonplace. She is a lady after all.

Most of the girls I've seen at gay bars in Manhattan surely would not have a problem getting hit on at a straight bar. That’s a really tired excuse. They need a new one.

*** I saw this on a user generated new site and felt it was of interest. I guess this is a touchy subject lol. Who knew?

Updated On: 6/22/07 at 11:07 AM

[robbiej]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:08am

'I wouldn't take my best girlfriend to a place where public groping is commonplace. She is a lady after all.'

Is this the 21st Century version of yelling 'FISH!'?

[misschung]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:12am

lol robbie

Wow, maybe I've been going to some shady straight bars then, because 'groping' is definitely not exclusive to gay bars

Most of the girls I've seen at gay bars in Manhattan surely would not have a problem getting hit on at a straight bar. That’s a really tired excuse. They need a new one.

You'd be surprised

[robbiej]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:15am

Or maybe...JUST MAYBE...they go in order to NOT get hit on. Maybe they just want to kick back with their friends and have a fun time.

[blueroses]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:17am

I was just PMed the article. The guy makes a lot of good points! He just wants to be treated like a person...not an accessory.

[artscallion]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:19am

My sister-in-law sees me as her gay pet. Every time I go to her house, all she talks about is this great connection we have (it's all in her head; I despise the woman) Then she just sits back with this big goofy smile and expectant look on her face like she's waiting for me to entertain her with witty quips or maybe a song. She'll even resort to tossing me set-up lines to coax me into Oscar Wilde mode. And she loves to show me off to her friends.

Regarding women in gay bars...I don't mind them now. But I remember in the 70s there was a problem with gay clubs being taken over by straight people. It would always start with gay men bringing straight women friends, who would rave to their friends about how much better the gay club was. Little by little it would be taken over and become unfriendly to gay clients until it became completely straight.

I remember owners using tricks to prevent this. One trick was not allowing open toed shoes (open toed shoes were basically all women wore to clubs back then) as a way of keeping women out. And with no women, you get no straight men. Clubs would also post signs that they were member only clubs. The only way you could become a member was to be recommended by an existing member. The membership was not real. Just a way of screening folks they suspected were straight.

And that's your big gay history lesson for today.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:20am

In my case, whenever I've brought a woman into a gay bar with me, it's because we happen to be walking by and I say, "Let's stop in here." And guess what, I've brought straight guy friends in there too.

But really, mejust is soooooooo retro.

[misschung]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:21am

Exactly, robbie. It's nice to be able to talk to someone who isnt staring at your.... charisma. heh

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:22am

Go to "Bar 13" or Crobar any Friday or Saturday. There are like 5 straight girls for every straight guy, and I'm trying to give a conservative estimate here.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:23am

What is your deal man? You now say "everybody is welcome" but you said you LOATHE seeing women in gay bars. Have you ever tried to deal with this misogyny problem?

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:29am

Um... I don't have a problem with women and they don't have a problem with me.

[robbiej]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:33am

Is your drag name Miss O'Gyny, a down and out potato farmer who cuts herself because she hates her 'down there' parts?

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 11:34am

All of those women are shopping for their newest 'gay accessory'.

I have a t-shirt I like to wear out that says, 'SORRY, I DON'T DO GIRLS'.

You should think about investing in one, MJWHF.