A question to the gays on this board- Page 2

[jacobtsf]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:09pm

Namo brings up an interesting point- is there a difference between gay men and gay women.

[DAME]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:11pm

Men like men. women like Women.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:11pm

Ask them when they chose to be straight? It's like that. It's not a choice, it's a realization. It's not coming out, it's being honest. As MusicMan said, sexual preference is not a choice. Sexual activity is.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:11pm

hmmm...hard to tell, as i am neither, but i've gotta tell you it irks the hell outta me when girls "play" the lesbian card and grope each other at clubs just to titillate the horny straight men out there.

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:12pm

There's a difference between men and women in general, so their experience of homosexuality is different as well - in my opinion. Updated On: 10/15/04 at 04:12 PM

[Matt_G]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:13pm

Tiff, how about when the hot football jock stud starts to rub your shoulders at a party and than just takes off with his GIRLFRIEND? Talk about frustrating.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:13pm

Jacob--I was also born this way.

A lot of gays and lesbians prefer the word "orientation" to "preference."

I prefer to add the word "affectional" to "sexual"--being gay is my "sexual and affectional orientation." Not my "choice." Not my "preference."

I hope you see the difference. I hope your classmates do--but prepare yourself for a few negative reactions.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:15pm

yeah matt, that would be frustrating no matter who you play for.

what's more frustrating is that neither part a) or b) has ever happened to me. but that's a whole other thread.

[Matt_G]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:15pm

No, that was a reference to my best friend's birthday party last year.

[The Grovers Corners Yenta]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:16pm

I am straight. How can any sexuality be by choice? It's like saying your blood type is by choice. " Yes, I told everyone that I was Type O. Then I finally had to come out of the closet admit to being type B" Ridiculous!!G-d gave the anatomy and physiology to procreate and you need someone of the opposite sex for that. But I feel that is a separate issue. Why must people look for the negative? Closets are for storage........not people! There should not be a homo or hetero prefix because we are all sexual beings.

[jacobtsf]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:18pm

DG- what you just said reminded me of something I read in Anthropology class. It said that the only differeces between in the human mind are between the genders (IE: not the races or cultures ect.)

Joey- I understand and am already given many negative reactions (I am already accused of being the closeted senior), but if I can get one person to change their oppinions on homosexuals, than I believe I have done well.

I do have gay friends (both male and female) but they do not have the quick response like BWW has.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:18pm

I agree, Grovers, but PalJoey's got a point about specifying an affectionate and sexual preference.

[CurtainUp]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:19pm

Speaking as a straight gal I can't really say, but I once saw a play and someone compared it to "being left handed." It's not the norm but it's purely genes. I dont know if this is true, but it seemed right.

[CurtainUp2]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:20pm

"Certainly our sexual impulses are hardwired in our biological systems. But how we respond to them is a different matter entirely. We decide to act on our impulses or not--in that sense, it's a choice."

In that sense everything is a choice. But whether you choose to act upon your sexual impulses or live your entire life trying to deny and suppress them doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you're actually gay. You can CHOOSE to live a completely celibate life and still be gay.

[zoran912]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:21pm

Here's a different opinion from a gay dude:

Personally, I do not think that homosexuality is a concious decision. I don't think you are necessarily born with it either. I think that it is an unconcious choice made by societal conditioning.

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:22pm

i'd also point out that a lot of queer theorists are now not liking the term "sexuality" because it seems like it is all situated around gender and/or sex identity. Their term has become "desire relationships".

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:23pm

zoran, i was wondering about that too. would that explain why the vast majority of people are self-identified as straight?

[jacobtsf]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:24pm

I am sorry for saying homosexuality. It will not happen again

[touchmeinthemorning]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:27pm

Well, I should say I don't mind any words people use to describe someone else. So, say whatever word you want...fag, queer, homo, mo, gay, homosexual...whatev.

I just thought it was an interesting point to bring into the discussion.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:29pm

::Their term has become "desire relationships".::

Christ. "Desire relationships." Leave it to theorists to find a way to take the fun out of something as robust and powerful as sexuality. This is, of course, the danger of academic lingo being incorporated into the vocabularies of actual human beings outside of the academy.

[GovernorSlaton]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:30pm

This a very interesting thread. Updated On: 6/5/05 at 04:30 PM

[GovernorSlaton]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:34pm

Oh, it's not that early; my school lets out at three.

[jacobtsf]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:34pm

Gov brought up another question.

When did you realize you were gay?

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:37pm

This has been an interesting thread to read.

(I don't mean that in a crappy way)

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 4:38pm

for once