A question to the gays on this board- Page 4

[Matt_G]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 8:31pm

Boobs, thank you for that image.

I'm going to vomit now.

[NYadgal]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 8:31pm

Matt - you DIDN'T!

[Liam]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 8:32pm

oh i agree with you i would never change who i am eather i was just wondering

[Liam]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 8:34pm

oh and nemo

"Never. But I'd happily feed you a dictionary."

ha ha how funny im bad at spelling oh i get it how obzerbent of you!STOP,its not nice evry one knows you dont have to point it out! Updated On: 10/15/04 at 08:34 PM

[Liam]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 8:46pm

continue.....

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 8:55pm

Well I am known for being very obzerbent...

but here, take a few minutes and join The Look it Up Club and make each post a delight to read, because right now they tend to resemble bowls of Alpha Bits.


The Look it Up Club

[Dollypop]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 9:02pm

Another vote for "born this way". I've been through extensive therapy to change and have come to the conclusion it can't be done.

God made me gay and God doesn't make junk.

[Liam]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 9:15pm

im going to PM you your not worth roning the trend for!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 9:16pm

Really, Dollypop? You obviously haven't met RodneyK.

Updated On: 10/15/04 at 09:16 PM

Posted: 10/15/04 at 10:15pm

keep it up.

[Liam]

Posted: 10/15/04 at 10:18pm

dolly what are you keeping up?

[Jon]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 12:00am

Here's the other side of the coin:

My parents were always involved in the theatre. I grew up surrounded by theatre folk, including many gay men. I have always loved musical theate. It is now my full time profession.

I am straight. None of my family's gay friends ever tried to "recruit" me. My formative years were filled with showtunes, chorus boys, drag queens, you name it. No matter how many times I heard the soundtrack of "A Star is Born", or the OCR oe "Dames at Sea", it never made me want to have sex with a man.

I am proof that you can't "make" someone become gay.

[Matt_G]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 12:02am

C'mon, Jon. You're not even a LITTLE bit curious?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 12:02am

That's a picture of you in your icon though, right?

(Kidding. Seriously.)

[BwayTheatre11]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 12:12am

As of this stage in my life, I consider myself a bisexual. No, it is not a choice. No, I do not know this for a fact, but I am pretty damn sure...because of how I feel inside.

My uncle is gay. I just feel that it has to be genetic.

I am still confused about my sexuality, so I will let those older than me talk. Someday I will know much more about myself and how I feel.

Updated On: 10/16/04 at 12:12 AM

[NYadgal]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 12:19am

Music theatre ALWAYS makes me want to have sex with a man.

Seriously, I'm straight. I've never questioned it. Just like I've never questioned the color of my eyes. It's how I was born. I don't see why people who are gay should be expected to answer any differently.

Updated On: 10/16/04 at 12:19 AM

[Liz_Bennet]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 2:03am

TGIF- Those Catholics would have a seizure if they came to my college. For Coming Out Week last year, an enormous amount of pavement was chalked, including several explicitly accurate diagrams and any number of phrases which I am too prudish to repeat here. The problem was that they went a little wild and chalked inside a tunnel. So everything else had long since disappeared by Parents' Weekend, when the parents were startled to go through one very, very gay tunnel (it doesn't rain in there) on an otherwise plain campus. My mom thought it was cute.

A friend of mine (who is coming out currently) wants me to teach him more about musicals. I'm a straight girl, so isn't he supposed to be teaching me?

[Plum]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 2:46am

I think to some extent, in some instances, sexuality can be decided by life circumstances as well as inborn traits. Before you leap down my throat, let me explain:

What questions like "Is homosexuality a choice?" don't take into account is bisexuality. And especially the fact if you believe Kinsey, most "straight" and "gay" people have thoughts of the other orientation, if only rarely.

So the theoretical instance I'm proposing is- a gay person might find the person who's an "exception" to the rule- one of the few people of the opposite sex they can feel attracted to. They might find this person early on and think they're straight. They might find them later and think they've been "converted." Are they straight? Are they gay? If you met them, what would you say their "nature" is?

I don't believe in the question of "nature vs. nurture." They don't oppose each other; they are each other. Your nurture determines what aspects of your nature come out, and your nature can help change the circumstances of your nurture. They're too entangled to just separate that way. So I think that nurture- how you're brought up, who you meet and when- can help determine your "nature" - your sexuality.

Sexuality isn't a bipolar phenomenon, anyway; it's a continuum. Restricting it to gay and straight (with the occassional weirdo bisexual) is too simplistic. Updated On: 10/16/04 at 02:46 AM

Posted: 10/16/04 at 9:28am

Excellent post, Plum - from a rare perfect Kinsey 6

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 9:31am

Kinsey 6? Does that mean totally gay?

Posted: 10/16/04 at 9:33am

0 - exclusively heterosexual

1 - predominantly heterosexual, incidentally homoexual

2 - predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual

3 - equally heterosexual and homosexual

4 - predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual

5 - predominantly homosexual, incidentally heterosexual

6 - exclusively homosexual

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 9:40am

I'm a 6 too, unless Angelina Jolie is involved, so I guess that makes me a 5 then does it? I am very much looking forward to the movie about Kinsey that's coming up.

Posted: 10/16/04 at 9:53am

Making a movie about sex that stars Liam Neeson makes me pretty much like a moth to flame.

[Pip]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 10:00am

I very much believe that trying to categorize sexuality is probably an exercise in futility. There are certain traits about other people...regardless of gender...that we're attracted to on many levels...or we aren't, on many levels. Some traits amuse us, some traits irritate us, some traits intrigue us and arouse us emotionally and physically. And, so much of that can be situational! Nature, I think, sets a framework for how open we are to experiment, nurture sets a framework for how comfortable we are acting on our nature. Thank God that those interests and responses are going to different for every one of us!

[MasterLcZ]

Posted: 10/16/04 at 10:34am

I fully believe that people are born gay, and a lot depends how they are shaped by society to act on those innate desires.

I should mention that the very first song I learned as a tot was "Rockabye Your Baby With A Dixie Melody" . My Mom had seen Judy at Carnegie Hall the year after I was born and would play that song on the record player for me.

I do know that I was powerfully ...and sexually... attracted to my Day Camp counselor. His name was Mike. He must have been all of eighteen years old. He had a hairy chest and wore a gold chai on a gold chain around his neck and put powder on his crotch before he put on his jockstrap.

I was five years old.