Abortion

[Liam]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:05am

how do you feel about it




the other day i saw a verry afensive bumper sticker the other day :"if you can let a mother kill her child how can you tell other people not to kill"

i think they took it too far Updated On: 9/26/04 at 11:05 AM

[NoDayButToday2]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:23am

First of all, and I mean this in the kindest way possible, it's spelled 'Abortion', So before people start flaming you, you might want to change the thread title.

Second of all, even though I'm not totaly for being able to kill babies, if the mother was considering abortion she obviously didn't want a child. If she didn't want the child, she probably wouldn't take very good care of it. So which is worse? Causing the child pain and suffering their entire life, or ending it before it began? Now don't get me wrong, I think the mothers who get pregnant multiple times assuming they can always have an abortion get on my nerves. They could at least show some they put some effort into not becoming pregnant. And women who are raped have every right to have an abortion in my opinion. Sadly, there really isn't a way to write a law saying some people can have one and some people can't, so I'm hoping that the governmment allows it to happen.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:29am

That may have been offensive to you, but obviously your views would be offensive to that person as well. That's what America is all about - we're all supposed to be allowed to have our own opinions.

[thirdrowcenter]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:39am

I don't think it is right to abort a baby after the first trimester. I've known people who found out the sex of the baby and decided to terminate the pregnancy. Updated On: 9/26/04 at 11:39 AM

[Matt_G]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:40am

Matt_G uses his psychic balls to see that this thread has the possibility of turning into the nastiest one ever created on this board.

[Liam]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:44am

why?

[Ebonic_Singer]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:48am

I thought you meant something completely different by psychic balls--especially considering this topic.

[amasis]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:48am

psychic balls?

[Ebonic_Singer]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:49am

Beat ya to it amasis.

[amasis]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 11:51am

I'm on the other side of the world right now. At least that's what I'm using as an excuse.

[TGIF]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 12:17pm

Hmm, very touchy topic.

I, personally, would never get an abortion. There can be so much debate over when a fetus becomes a human. I can not and will not tell others what to do. However, I do think that since science is improving and now woman who give birth after 4 months their child now survives. Because of this, I think that there shouldnt be any abortions past the 1st trimester.

[laactress]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 12:17pm

I don't believe in it for myself but if other people want to take that road then it's their OWN choice. I am an adopted baby and if my "birth" mom would have got an abortion then I would never have had all the chances I have gotten in my life. But I don't ridicule people for how they feel on this subject.

[Ebonic_Singer]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 12:52pm

YEah can it be a rule that nobody get's criticized or argued over their opinions on this specific thread? It'd a little different than fighting over Brookyln Shiils.

[musicalfandukie]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:05pm

i am very against it. it really makes me sad. a life should not be killed because people are careless.

[Sunfish]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:08pm

I think it is a personal choice for the woman. She is the one most affected by the pregnancy and the outcome. The fetus cannot survive outside her body, so it is not the government's place to "sentence" her to carry it. Abortion needs to be legal, available, and safe. And hopefully rare. (Yes, John Kerry's position on the topic.) The way we make it rare is by education (sex and otherwise) to teach them realistic alternatives before the pregnancy occurs. For those who decide to have abortions because of rape or other misfortune, we can only offer compassion.

[Sunfish]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:18pm

musicalfandukie and others,

I just have to wonder what people think will happen to the children who will exist if there are not abortions. Obviously they are not wanted and cannot be cared for by their parents. Can the "welfare" system handle them? Are there enough adoptive homes to take them in? Particularly minority children, or drug-addicted ones, or handicapped ones? What are their chances of survival, of a good life? Will we have gangs of homeless children on the streets, like many third world countries? More crime? More prisons?

Think about it. Really think about it. And if you have solutions, I am really, honestly interested in them.

[Benzy92]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:18pm

I really think it should be the mother's choice. If it was for a careless reason such as sleeping around, then I dont think there should be an abortion. They could put the baby up for adoption, etc. However, if a teen or any woman for that matter is raped or violated, I could understand having an abortion so she wouldnt have to remember the incident.

[Sunfish]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:20pm

benzy, it is hard to write into legislation who is sleeping around and who has a legitimate reason. I certainly don't want that gang on Capitol Hill deciding that for any woman!

[Unknown User]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:20pm

Well,

First of all, I personally am against it.

Making is illegal is stupid and just won't work.

However, partial birth abortion is FOCKING MURDER and if you don't think so then you are either really uninformed as to what partial birth abortion truly is, or you're in favor of murder and you're a sick focker.

I think it's outrageous that they didn't approve the morning after pill for over the counter. How many teen-age girls would go to the store, buy, and take the pill that would not/could not go to a clinic and get the pill from a doctor from fear of parents finding out.

[newyorkuniq]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:26pm

I think it is the mothers choice and the government has no right to tell ANYONE what they can and cannot to with there body.
I think that many women are irresponsible with birth control but they shouldnt have to have a child if they do not want one. People also need to realise there are other options now. There is the morning after pill and even a early abortion pill that can be taken in the first trimester.

[musicalfandukie]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:35pm

there is adoption. were sitting here killing baby's cause some mothers can't take care of them when there are couples fighting as hard as they can to have one. i fully understand that a woman might not have the money or what it takes to take care of a child. why not give the ones who can and want to a try.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 1:45pm

I agree.

There should be stronger laws to protect the couples who pay for the birth mother's pre-natal care, etc. but then the birth mother changes her mind.

Every day in the Chicago papers there are PAGES of couples in the classified ads that are looking to adopt.

[NoDayButToday2]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 2:07pm

---I think it is a personal choice for the woman. She is the one most affected by the pregnancy and the outcome. The fetus cannot survive outside her body, so it is not the government's place to "sentence" her to carry it. Abortion needs to be legal, available, and safe. And hopefully rare. (Yes, John Kerry's position on the topic.) The way we make it rare is by education (sex and otherwise) to teach them realistic alternatives before the pregnancy occurs. For those who decide to have abortions because of rape or other misfortune, we can only offer compassion. ---


Agreed

[Sunfish]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 2:18pm

to those who believe adoption is the answer: what happens when supply meets demand? when all the while couples have all their pretty white newborns? and what happens to the black babies, to the drug addicted ones, the handicapped ones? kinda skipped over those.

Regardless, it is not the government's place to force a woman to bear a child. It is her body and it is her decision what she does with it.

[The Grovers Corners Yenta]

Posted: 9/26/04 at 2:36pm

For me personally, I am against abortion. Although I am past child bearing age, I dont think I could have ever had an abortion when I was younger. It is the taking of a life. However, I think it should be left as a totally personal choice and not something the government regulates. I would rather see energy spent on teaching young people on the consequences of un wanted pregnancies. Kids to day are becoming sexually active by the time they reach middle school. I have worked on the OB floors of my local hospital and have sat with girls as young as 10, 11 ,or 12 who are in labor and ready to deliver. They are inner city, drug addicted and many come from homes where abuse is rampant. When they do give birth, they have low birth weight babies either because of a lack of prenatal care or they are born addicted. The babies are then sent to the newborn ICU for months at a time. I have been a volunteer cuddler in those units and you have no idea of what it is like to hold a baby that weighs about a lb and connect to a myriad of tubes and life support equipment. Let's focus on educating our youth!