Andrew 'Dice' Clay

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Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/8/07 at 8:59pm

Discuss.

I ultimately think he was an interesting idea that was poorly executed. His basic aim was to create a character so thoroughly hateful and mean-spirited to see if anyone would still laugh. He even went further and wasn't really trying to cloud his "true self", in essence making the audience believe that HE was the character. He never made it clear that he was just playing a character.

The flaw was that he wasn't really that funny. So...I mean...

#2

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/8/07 at 9:40pm

He was never playing a character. He was always a hateful, racist, sexist, homophobic piece of crap.

Even in his "Acting" roles, he 'played' Dice. Even if this theory was true, his audience was never, for an instant, in on the "joke." You might as well say Idi Amin was merely "playing" the role of a cannabalistic insane dictator.

#3

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/8/07 at 11:06pm

I never found him funny, only offensive.

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#4

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/8/07 at 11:49pm

Not funny. Period.

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#5

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 10:36am

I despise him. And I agree with, Joe. It was never a character.

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#6

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 10:40am

I liked him in Casual Sex.

#7

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 10:40am

sorry, not going with you on this one, Cruel. If you want a funny, hateful character, you want Kaufman. Not this piece of fat ****.

interesting how he still inspires this much hate, 10 years after his carreer went down the toilet.

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#8

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 10:56am

He was never able to propel the character. Same old routine. Now a washed up hack.

#9

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 10:57am

The only thing I found offensive about him, was that he was never funny.

#10

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 12:39pm

Are you sure that all of that were his own opinions and thoughts? All comics create personas and characters to perform in, but all of them let you in on the joke. Clay never did that.

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re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 12:42pm

Count me in as one of the never found him funny.

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#12

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 1:36pm

I never found him funny either, but I worked with him on one of his many failed sitcoms and he couldn't have been a nicer person to deal with. I'm a very "out" gay man and he was never disrespectful or homophobic in any way. I agree with you Cruel, it was a very poorly executed character that just wasn't funny.

#13

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 1:58pm

Pippin--I agree with you re: the Kaufman character.

Dice may have just been a character. That never really bothered me. He has the freedom to say what he wants and people have the right to enjoy him. What I hated--and what was so apparent if you ever viewed his HBO special (s)--is that his audience members were NOT playing a role! Ugh. It's not like they were "in" on the joke...you could tell that a good amount of his devotees were trashy, homophobic and sexist and they were eating up all the sh-t he was feeding them.

#14

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 2:00pm

blueroses, I have the same issue with Larry the Cable Guy (not his real name).

Updated On: 8/9/07 at 02:00 PM

#15

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 2:06pm

Blueroses, I totally agree with you. The joke was so poorly executed that it seemed to give license to that kind of thinking. And...he wasn't very good at trying to explain that to all the crazy, racist, homophobic, sexist, inbred freeks who enjoy that sort of thing.

#16

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 2:11pm

Calvin, I never heard of Larry the Cable Guy! I'll look him up on youtube when I get home.

Dice was good with impersonations...I'll give him that much (Travolta, Pacino, etc.).

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re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 2:14pm

No, don't, blueroses! You've somehow managed to avoid this rather unfortunate zeitgeist, so here, ignorance really is bliss!

#18

re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 10:45pm

I can't stand my Brooklyn neighbor.

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re: Andrew 'Dice' Clay

Posted: 8/9/07 at 11:09pm

Just to play devil's advocate, blueroses, you could say the same thing of Andy Kaufman's audiences back in the day, too. After all, a lot of people didn't realize his wrestling acts were staged.

And stay away from Larry The Cable Guy. Your IQ decreases by at least 10 points for every minute spent watching him.

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