Are you pro-choice or pro-"life"? — Page 7

However, NO ONE in the 'pro-life' movement even mentions the foster care/adoption system and so, for me, I can't see evidence that we Americans are too concerned with the life of a child.
Of course not. Pro-life Americans are completely concerned with the lives of healthy white newborns.

Ah, you're absolutely right. Not a single person who considers themselves to be pro-life ever has a private adoption and takes in a scared seventeen-year-old's child. And there's definitely not anyone in the pro-life movement who is a champion of the foster care system, taking in troubled child after troubled child. NOBODY who's pro-life EVER does loving, compassionate, post-abortion counseling. And as well all know, EVERY SINGLE pro-lifer in America is white. And they all spend their time harassing pregnant women and bombing Planned Parenthood clinics. All of 'em. Not a single open-minded moderate in the bunch.

Never mind that people who identify as pro-life are a diverse cross-section of the human population, pulling from every category of gender, race, geography, socioeconomic status, religion, and political party. Never mind that as with any group, only the extremists make the news.

Generalize much?

Updated On: 9/12/08 at 08:43 AM

I am pro choice but I have a question for the pro lifers....are you for the death penalty? One of my college professors always argued that you can't be pro life and be for the death penalty because they are against taking a life (even if it isn't innocent). I personally am unsure about the death penalty because sure there are monsters in this world, but then I look at some of the cases in Texas where people were put to death and then it turns out they were innocent, they were just too poor to afford a good lawyer and I am not sure.

Just throwing that out there to see...

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I'm against the death penalty, except for people who walk too slow on my way to work.

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Yes, I am completely against capital punishment.

GoK - I've worked with Project Gabriel and The Nuturing Network and there is absolutely nothing against contraceptive use either in their stance or their outreach work. Actually, there is nothing anti-abortion either, as we try to provide for those women who have already chosen the alternative. I'm just making the point that many of us don't neglect the mother or child who is delivered.

Updated On: 9/12/08 at 11:19 AM

Thanks, Moony. It's nice to know there are people out there practicing what they preach. And I was just curious about the contraceptive issue because so many hardliners on the pro-life side seem to be against that, too. I realize, of course, that when they've come to your organization they've already made a decision, but ultimately I think it's all interconnected.

Mistress, to me, what you describe is someone who is actually pro-choice. Maybe I'm just splitting hairs, but they are personally against abortion but aren't attempting to force that upon others are allowing women to still make the choice for themselves.

I see what you're saying, but I still think that a moderate pro-lifer is something of a misnomer. Maybe it's because the vegetarian lunatic fringe isn't as powerful as the pro-life lunatic fringe, I'm not sure. Or maybe because the issue isn't nearly as hotly politicized as abortion. You choose not to eat meat, but you don't expect others not to do so, and you are not actively preventing others from doing so. That seems more akin to being pro-choice than to be a moderate.

I didn't say they weren't crazy, I just said they weren't as powerful. :)

Life, but I don't believe in overturning Roe V Wade. No one has the right to impose their religious beliefs on the entire country!

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I am definitely pro-choice. The only way I could see even the consideration for Roe vs Wade to be overturned:

Enforced registration for a license to parent a child before conception. Anyone not licensed to parent a child would be legally required to administer a 100% effective government/ADA-approved contraceptive. Anyone not registered to parent a child and not administering the contraceptive would be subject to fine/jail time. Any woman who is pregnant and not licensed to parent a child, other than in cases of rape, will be subjected to fine/jail time/and possibly have the child placed into adoption. Should a woman find herself pregnant while using the contraceptive, the government will be financially responsible for placement or care of the child until it reaches the age of consent.

Obviously neither political party would ever agree to such terms, much less the American public, but until they set up laws to regulate the use of fully effective contraceptives as well as legal requirements for adults to plan their families, I couldn't imagine abortion being Federally outlawed. But then, I didn't think people were stupid enough to vote for Bush twice. If enough people want Fascism, then they'll get it, but I don't think they'll like it as much as they think.

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Updated On: 9/12/08 at 03:23 PM

Exactly.

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I could think of a couple people who should have to have their babies pre-approved.

I'm pro-choice.

"Exactly"

really. So you want the gov. telling us women what to do with our bodies?

boo hiss!!!!

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Bluemoon and MistressOverdone, I was being facetious, but you can't disregard the fact that the majority of children in the foster care system are minorities and over the age of two.

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