BOYCOTT Kristin Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?- Page 10

[ckeaton]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 5:41pm

Thank you for that post. :)

[DBillyP]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 5:57pm

Well said, Gelfling.

[MaTakeALookAtMe]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 6:00pm

When Kristin sits at the right hand of Gad judging all nations, you guys are gonna regret dissing her

[midtowngym]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 6:02pm

There are OTHER Christian shows she could've appeared on--some which don't think i'm diseased. And no one claimed she's 'dropping' her gay fans. That would be way to honest. She's much more duplicitous--trying to have her gay fans AND her 700 Club fans who think i'm sick and an abomination.
Do I hate her? Of course not. As already pointed out, she probably doesn't agree with Robertson's philosophy (i hope...) She made a very poor choice and is figuratively slapping her gay fans in the face. She ain't too 'pop-yoo-ler' with me.

Updated On: 4/5/05 at 06:02 PM

[vbplayer]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 7:27pm

These words appear at the end of an interview on her website....

KCO
Any parting words for your fans?
KC
Just that I have the best fans in the world and my picture outsold a number of really, really huge celebrities on the internet and I want to thank whoever bought that because it even made my niece and nephew think I'm pretty cool – and just that I love you guys – I love you all. And just keep checking in with the site because that's the best way that I can keep in touch with everybody and thanks for being so fabulous and gracious.

[Justice]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 7:30pm

"I've been gay-bashed. Ask Matthew Shepard--oh wait, you can't because he's dead"

Sorry to hear that, but I didn't realise that the 700 Club was responsible.

Eminem performed with Elton John. Do you boycott Elton, too? Cuz if you don't, that would be very contradicting..

[vbplayer]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 7:38pm

Updated On: 4/5/05 at 07:38 PM

[midtowngym]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 8:32pm

I was indeed a fan. I've seen her going back to Steel Pier--before most people knew who she was. I'd always been impressed with her talent--which is why i am so sad and angry (but i'm glad you noticed a misspelling!)
The 700 Club isn't 'responsible' for Matthew Shepard's death, but they contributed in their own way. Please don't place your words in my mouth--as you can tell, i have my own voice. But i do think you should learn more about what motivated his killers.
And Elton took a LOT of heat from the gay community for his actions. And yes, if I were still buying Elton albums (haven't since Captain Fantastic as a wee lad), i would've stopped until he addressed the issue.

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[Justice]

Posted: 4/5/05 at 8:52pm

Actually, I have seen The Laramie Project.

I've also seen Boys Don't Cry.

I do not believe in Bible, or religion, but one of my closest friends does. She believes in Jesus Christ and is a devout follower. She accepts me for who I am and holds no hatred for what I do. She is probably one of the sweetest people I know. We have our differences, and we both respect each other. This is how most Christians feel. You are talking about a mere few that give them a bad name.
It sounds to me like you hold resentment due to your past.

And you know, I work with someone who thinks I'm going to hell for being gay. I don't hate this person, as he is very kind to me. We just have different beliefs, and lucky for him, I don't believe in hell. But, if we get on the topic of religion, I stand my ground, and get extremely hotheaded. He knows this, so it is a subject we try to avoid.

Kristin has not done or said anything to you personally. She has never stated that she hates homo's, or pulled a Donna Summer and stated that homosexuality is a sin. You are reading into it more than you should.

[MasterLcZ]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 6:38am

I know exactly how mid-town feels. I have long supported the woman, but I can't anymore.

I spoke to someone who knows her and he was dumbfounded that she agreed to be on the show. "I mean, she must not have known what the 700 CLUB is all about!" He said. "She's not exactly a member of MENSA. But My God - ALL her best friends are gay men! How could she have DONE this?! The 700 CLUB is a "Christian" show is like the Klan a Fraternal Organization!"

A shame. I was so looking forward to seeing her yesterday.
But I know I did the right thing in boycotting it.

[shameless]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 8:54am

"The 700 CLUB is a "Christian" show like the Klan a Fraternal Organization!""

LOL - great quote

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[bunchamuncha]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 9:07am

At her CD signing she made a point at the beginning of how she personally loves everyone, no matter who they are, what they believe, sexual orientation, etc...
Some of you naysayers will think it was damage control, but I think she was genuine. It would take a heck of a lot of energy to live the jekykyl/hyde persona some of you wish to believe she has.
She had a nice size crowd, probably a couple of hundred and she got a great reception. And the CD itself shows off her voice nicely. I'm not a big Jesus music lover, but the songs are uplifiting and the message in most of them are pretty universal.
Contrary to what most people think, I don't know that too many people actually pay attention to how radical the 700 Club is/has been and that's because rationale people dismiss those kind of ignorant statements. And there's so many being made lately, who can keep track of where they come from. If you watched her interview and that's it, you don't get any impression of what the show is other than a Christian show.
Those of you who seem so appalled at her appearance also don't sound like you ever had any intention of buying the CD to begin with, so stop stirring the pot.

[DramaRobin]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 9:24am

Okay, first of all I just want to say that I can see where everyone offended by Kristin's appearence on the show are coming from. I'd probably feel angry and hurt had she gone onto a show that promoted hateful thoughts about straight caucasion women. But I don't believe that it is a reason to boycott her. She made a mistake. It happens and we all do it. It doesn't mean that she loves her homosexual fans any less. Just like doing AIDS Benefits and appearing in gay and lesbian magazines doesn't mean she loves her radical Christian fans any less. Both are examples of "slaps in the face" to either side. Why make her choose one fan base? It'd be a different story if she had gone onto the show spouting horrible things about gay people and saying how they are all going to hell but she didn't. Now, I don't personally know Kristin but every interview I've seen of her and the one time I met her she has always seemed very open minded, sincere and kind. And she has proved countless times that she loves her fans very much. So why completely boycott her for one mistake?

~~~Amy~~~

[midtowngym]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 9:37am

I agree buncha--it WAS genuine; genuine damage control! And I said in my very first post that i wouldn't have bought her CD anyway (did you read it?) However, I won't be attending her inevitable cabaret show (or other similar projects.) And I probably would have attended. She's upset a lot of her gay fans--now wouldn't it be nice if she addressed the mistake? Apologized? Or even mentioned it?

[bunchamuncha]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 9:43am

Apologize for what and who should she be apologizing to? The gay community she supports so much and gives back to?
I think you're taking it a little too far, for a tv show that's not even on broadcast television.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 1:35pm

"because rationale people dismiss those kind of ignorant statements."

Oh there are plenty of "rationale" people who believe in these ignorant statements. These ignorant statements are codified in the Republican Party's platform. These ignorant statements are believed by a good chunk of Congress, the President, and his staff.

A good chunk of the country (rationale or not) exercises voting power to enact constitutional amendments to further these ignorant statements.

So, I would say it is a problem.

And, the huge irony is that ALL of you would be throwing a huge **** fit if she had gone on a show that promotes racism.

But for some reason homophobia doesn't equal racism to many of you. And THAT'S exactly why there is disagreement on here.

[Justice]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 1:35pm

Inevitable Cabaret?

Is this set?

Because she tours at big concert halls, like Carnegie - and to sold out crowds. Losing one fan is not going to hurt her career in the least!

[Albin]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 1:47pm

this is nucking futs.

[midtowngym]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 1:49pm

Uhhhhh.... It's a LOT more than one if you've read this thread. And i act on my conscience and what i think is right--i won't lose any sleep wondering whether or not (or how much) this affects her career, if at all.

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[Peter]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 2:16pm

Justice has just perfectly stated why some of us are pissed. Kristin was certainly aware by appearing on a show that blames us for 9/11 and wishes our total annihilation that she would lose some of her gay fans. She also knew that she would gain more fans than she lost. It's as simple as that. Do you really think she doesn't know what Pat Robertson stands for?

This was a slap in the face to her gay fan base and she really doesn't care as long as she continues to fill Carnegie and sells records.

[bunchamuncha]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 2:37pm

I don't mean to sound ignorant, but I thought her fan base (of late at least) was primarily the young girl set?
I assume that most of the gay community supports most of Broadway and Kristin wouldn't be an exception.
I know plenty of straight men and women that like her, I just never made the distinction that her fan base was predominantly gay.

Did Pat Robertson appear on the episode she was on?

[sweetiedarlinmia]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 2:46pm

I've stayed outta this whole debate while watching from the sidelines, but I wanna go ahead and share my thoughts.

I think it was a poor decision from every angle for Kristin to go on the show. Any and everyone knows what Robertson and his collegues think, so there is no doubt that she, as well as her PR people, knew before they stepped on the soundstage. And IF by some miracle or whatever, she didn't, it was her responsibility to inform herself. You don't just agree to do an interview on a show you are unfamiliar with, with a journalist lacking in credentials, or anything that could put your career in jeopardy.(Por Example, I was watching this show in which a character agreed to do an interview with someone from CNN without verifying the credentials. The person ended up not being from Cable News Network, as she thought, but rather Cable NUDE Network.) Point blank, her PR people didn't do their jobs in considering what this appearance would mean, even if it didn't occur to her. To go on a show that is openly hostile to your core fan base shows poor judgement. My philosophy is if I feel like something I'm about to say or do is going to anger someone I dont want to anger, I don't say or do it. If she thought there was even the slight chance that her fans would be offended, she shouldn't have gone. It boils down to respecting your fans. Even my friends unfamiliar with Cheno as an artist thought that was a very unwise move, simply because they know the beliefs of Robertson. The analogy of a show with racist hosts perfectly captures it. I would be PISSED OFF if I saw Julian Bond chillin on a KKK talkshow, just like I was disturbed when I saw Elton and Eminem. There are other venues to promote Christian music without going on ones that promote hate. In show business, IMAGE is everything. This appearance presents a very convoluted picture of her views.
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[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 2:50pm

PAX is a gay friendly Christian cable TV channel. She could have gone PAX all the way.

[bunchamuncha]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 3:04pm

sweetiedarlinmia- well stated. It is up to the artist to stop relying on their hired help to do everything and think for themselves once in a while. Unfortunately, it's rarely the case, the bigger you get.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 4/6/05 at 3:07pm

The 700 Club is too famous for this to be thought of as a lil slip up.

But, as always sweetiedarlinmia brings some grounded truth to the precedings.