BOYCOTT Kristin Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
#100re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:24pmI think that this is ridiculous. Aren't you spreading the same hate by boycotting Kristen? Look at your own attitudes before you attack other people for simply promoting an ALBUM.
#101re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:24pm
"I believe that during the next couple of years there will be a fierce struggle between the militant leftists, secular humanists, and atheists who have dominated the power centers of American culture for the past 50 years and the Evangelical Christians, pro-family Roman Catholics, and their conservative allies. The radical left will lose its hold, and by the end of this decade control of the major institutions of society will be firmly in the hands of those who share a pro-family, religious, traditional value perspective." (Pat Robertson's Perspective, July - August/1991) "...the acceptance of homosexuality is the last step in the decline of Gentile civilization." --Pat Robertson, of the Christian Broadcasting Network, warned that hurricanes could hit Orlando, Fla., because of gay events there. Time magazine, Oct 26, 1998
PAT ROBERTSON CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE!! Yikes that's scary! For the record, I feel this whole thread is discriminating against Christians and labeling us all the same. Can't we all get along??
VIETgrlTerifa
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/18/04
#102re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:24pm
I doubt that a lot of Chenoweth's gay fans would have bought this CD anyway. That is why I think Chenoweth just wanted to reach out to the audience that would most likely buy her CD and the 700 Club is the most watched Christian show there is.
However, for those of you who think she should have done another show with this target audience to sell her CD, I wonder if there is another show with a proven Christian audience that doesn't have the same stance that Robertson does regarding gays and lesbians?
That doesn't mean I'm not really disappointed in her for choosing to be a part of this show to do so. I do agree that her being on the show does seem to mean that she doesn't object to being a part of the show that advocates the horrible view regarding gays and lesbians.
I guess what I'm really saying is that I rather believe that Chenoweth is trying to use the 700 Club for her own financial reasons and putting her true views on hold rather than actually believing she agrees with Robertson's stance on homosexuality. Yeah, it's not really a great view on Chenoweth, and I can understand why someone would feel betrayed. But, I think it puts her on a better light than the view that she fully supports Robertson's views.
So yeah, at best, she's a being a hypocrite that is putting her own financial needs over anything else. However, I refuse that she's a horrible person who should be boycotted and thrown into the fire for this. I think her and her people made a mistake and don't let good for it. However, I refuse to just brush her off and think so black and white on this issue.
trpguyy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/25/05
#103re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:25pm
Midtown,
Why don't you stop being so intolerant of Pat Robertson's views? Why is it OK for you to be intolerant and not him?
Updated On: 4/4/05 at 06:25 PM
#104re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:30pmDon't confuse loving and all-welcoming Christianity with the hate-filled rhetoric of the religious right. I wouldn't boycott Kristin, but I do think this shows poor judgement on her part, and it would not hurt to write her a letter expressing your concerns. The fact is that the 700 Club promotes homophobia in the name of "Christianity," and no one who supports gay people should have anything to do with that show. The only possible justification for Miss Chenoweth to appear on the 700 Club would be if she chose that venue to express pro-gay feelings. I somehow doubt that she would do that.
#105re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:30pm
OK, they are paying her to come, not her paying them or putting money into them so she can be on the show. If you want to get to a community of people you go to there main source. There aren't many Christian shows out there so she doesn't get much choice. I personally feel as a human being, that a person doesn't have to agree with what a person is doing, but they don't have the room to condemn that person. The 700 club condemned people. They are wrong. But Kristin Chenoweth is looking past that. She is in no way condemning people by going on that show either way. She's not condemning gay people or the 700 club. I think you need to rethink this situation. To you Kristin made a mistake. Right now you are condemning her for it.
Think about that. I'm not saying you are a horrible person for what you are saying about Kristin. I can tell you that I agree, but I can't tell you that you have to change your opinion. But I feel you are telling us to change our opinion about someone.
Updated On: 4/4/05 at 06:30 PM
trpguyy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/25/05
#106re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:34pmFor the sake of correctness, the 700 Club doesn't condemn anyone. The Bible does, and I challenge you to find a quote from Pat Robertson or anyone else on the show taking an unbiblical stance.
#107Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:34pm
This thread is absolutely ridiculous.
The hate and prejudice and immaturity on this board is truly depressing.
Rath and Littlefish, your thoughts and articulations are true, honest, and peaceful.
Honestly, people, lets stop the hate and leave Chenoweth alone. She is an amazing person and I think her motives are highly Christian spirited and she has a love for all people. I think the only hate that I can find is some closed minded biggots on the board. Pleas help stop the hate!!!
VIETgrlTerifa
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/18/04
#108Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:37pm
For the sake of correctness, the 700 Club doesn't condemn anyone. The Bible does, and I challenge you to find a quote from Pat Robertson or anyone else on the show taking an unbiblical stance.
Oh geez. Do you really want to start this argument?
#109Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:40pm
There is no hate from me. But i'm angry. Big difference. I never said hate, and don't hate her. I'm mad.
Becky
Broadway Star Joined: 5/14/03
#110re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:40pmLet me get this straight. Because Kristin is promoting her CD on the show, that automatically means she's held responsible for Robertson's views or should be judged for it? Wow. Think about what is being insinuated there. That's taking a giant step into a pretty big domino effect if you want to place the same judgement on other performers and talk show hosts' views.
#111Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:45pm
HOLY CRAP PEOPLE.....the girl is just pushing a cd..... I am a gay youth myself.....
when i found out she was supose to sing at The "inaguartion celebration" i lost it but i found out i was wrong....she was singing at a Bipartisain party thrown by both Democrats and Republicans.... Let's not cast stones or burn bridges till we know the whole truth....
why would she help at all the charity events if she didn't have an openess to gays....... I think this whole boycott thing is pathetic.....
#112re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:45pm
For the sake of correctness, the 700 Club doesn't condemn anyone. The Bible does, and I challenge you to find a quote from Pat Robertson or anyone else on the show taking an unbiblical stance.
I'm happy just reading the posts on here and staying out of it - both sides provide interesting arguments - but since you were asking, PalJoey put some quotes of Robertson a couple of pages back. If Robertson truly did say this, I choose to think this is a decidedly unbiblical stance instead of lumping all Christians into one bigoted cesspool. It's a shame that so many people on here (not necessarily directed at you) can't debate this in a more respectable manner.
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#113re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:47pm
Attention K-Mart shoppers:
Please throw out all your George Foreman grills. It seems Mr. Foreman's handlers mistakenly booked him for an appearance on The 700 Club and he actually went through with the interview.
#114re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:48pmDoes anyone ever watch the 700 Club? It's the funniest hour of comedy on TV.
VIETgrlTerifa
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/18/04
#115re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:52pm
Does anyone ever watch the 700 Club? It's the funniest hour of comedy on TV.
I know. I used to get angry with what they said, but a friend of mine told me to just treat them like you would treat a crazy man rambling on the streets. It was a lot more enjoyable after that. I think if you take Pat Robertson seriously, then you're already giving him what he wants.
WiCkEd4LyFfE
Broadway Star Joined: 6/13/04
#116re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:52pm
I think that this is getting out of hand.... you should not be bashing such a great performer!
Kristin has raised money for aids for the past couple of years now and she is performing to support homosexuals in June in NYC. Her best friend is even gay and she is very good friends with Rosie as well. She was even featured in a gay magazine in January!
Do not bash her just because of her beliefs! There is such a thing as free will ya know? She is very grateful for all of her fans.
#117Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:52pm
Well, TRPGuyy, i guess it just depends on which Bible you are reading, doesn't it?
The 700 Club and Pat Robertson are bigots and homophobes promoting a hate-filled non-Christian agenda. And it is an agenda.
My two cents: After a performance of WICKED last May, my friend and i both waited outside the stage door, hoping to meet the pint-sized diva. We did. Kristin bypassed all of the screaming little girls and came up to two gay men, and chatted with us for about fifteen minutes...the nightlife in NYC, the fun to be had, and the entire time she was being nothing but real. This was my first encounter with Kristin. I do not believe she is homophobic in anyway. Perhaps her agent/manager's mistake was booking her on such a program that does align itself with such a strong message of hate and intolerance. And that is where the problem lies. It may be easier for her to sell some records, but the forum for which to do so was poorly chosen.
And it is so easy for so many of you who are not gay and/or a minority of any kind to understand the struggle of self and identity. Many of us are not preaching a message of intolerance in response to the 700 Club OR Ms. Chenoweth's appearance on said program, but rather responding to the line that has been drawn by such religious right wingers like Pat Robertson who abuse the name of Jesus Christ to give their argument and position weight and levity in a non-secular setting. The message of Christ that I have always heard is one of tolerance and acceptance, not shame and hate.
And for many of you who pose the question, "can't we all just get along," simply placates those of us who have been pushed on the outside for far too long.
Updated On: 4/4/05 at 06:52 PM
#118re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 6:58pm
This thread is so silly.
Kristin's best friend is gay, and one of songs on the new album is dedicated to him. She recently appeared in Instinct Magazine. She also sang at the Cathedral of Hope, the world's largest lesbian and gay church on Easter Sunday 2002. I don't think that there is any doubt that she supports lesbians and gays and recognizes some of them as fans.
She, as an entertainer and business woman, also recognizes that the people watching the 700 Club might want to buy her album. This seems like a smart move from that standpoint.
After reading this thread, it doesn't seem likely that the people who are griping about her were going to buy the album in the first place. So, she didn't lose any sales.
If you don't want to buy the album, don't.
#119re: BOYCOTT Kristen Chenoweth--she appears on The 700 Club?
Posted: 4/4/05 at 7:02pm
DBillyP-As previously stated, i won't be buying her CD, and never would've. But when she opens her cabaret act at Joe's Pub, i won't be there and will ask friends to stay away. Let's see how many of her 700 Club fans from middle america make the schlep to the Village.
#120Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 7:02pmVietgrl, to clarify and you need it, I never said Cheno "shouldn't live" nor did I call her a whore. I would appreciate your not putting words into my posts. Funny thing is, this is the one time I was actually attempting to stick up for the woman but since reading comprehension and sarcasm are the two things lacking most amongst the posters on this board, I shouldn't really be all that surprised. Cheno's one and only "mistake" in this case was poor judgement and a "desperation" to sell this hard to sell album. And for the record, I have NEVER wished ill or harm upon anyone on this board and I take great offense to your insinuation and faux pas.
VIETgrlTerifa
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/18/04
#121Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 7:04pm
You're right Al Dente. I'm sorry. You just want her career and therefore her means of making a living to die. You want her alive so she can suffer through it.
#122Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 7:06pm
Gym,
Somehow I think she'll manage to sell out Joe's Pub anyway. It's fine to be angry, but it might be more productive to encourage the artists you do support, not waste energy on those you don't.
#123Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 7:08pmAmen Michael.
#124Support Kristin Chenoweth
Posted: 4/4/05 at 7:11pm
Now, look you're saying "amen" like this is a church or something.
Look what Kristin has caused.
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