Bears/Cubs/Seals/Otters- Page 2

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 11:39am

Once upon a time there were three bears: The Musclebear, the Belly Bear and the Cubby Bear...

Initially bears were about size, then they became about body hair, now they're about rebelling from the Abercrombie-and-Fitch aesthetic. The Belly Bears came from the old Girth-and-Mirth clubs of the 70s. The Musclebears were aging gym queens who stopped shaving their body hair. Cubs were always younger guys who identified as bears.

Bears were, from the outset, suburban or exurban, working-class in occupation, and masculine in physicality and personality, as opposed to the more self-styled "sophisticated" gay men who migrated to urban centers and worked in careers like fashion, advertising, communications, education, the arts, law or medicine.

A bear was less likely to use camp language or references and more likely to drink beer than cocktails.

With the advent of the Internet, the bear world expanded to include other men who also felt excluded from the fashion-dominated, entertainment-obsessed, buff and hairless youth culture.

That's when the Seal and Otter descriptions emerged. Otters are thin guys with hair. Seals are smooth guys who identify with bears.

[JailyardGuy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 11:39am

"And I've been known to unhinge... "


Like this, you mean?

[RobbO]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 11:41am

^ now wonder sueleen gave your show such a harsh review, jaily.

[JailyardGuy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 11:46am

I never could get that which-end-of-the-microphone thing right...

[RobbO]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 11:49am

just like other activiites, always put your mouth near the wider part.

[folkyboy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:08pm

personally, i think it starts to get into "furry" territory when we start going all around the geneology of animal attributes.

but yeah: bears are hot! woof!

[Calvin]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:08pm

So what's a Winnie the Pooh?

Never mind...I don't think I want to know.

[RobbO]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:10pm

a christopher robin-type with a penchant for very young, immature men that wear red sweater vests?

Updated On: 5/30/07 at 12:10 PM

[folkyboy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:10pm

oh lord if we're going to the Hundred Acre Wood then most men are like Rabbit. bitchy and after large carrots!

[JailyardGuy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:14pm

well, I mean, REALLY...what can you do with *baby* carrots except dip them in hummus and still be hungry an hour later?

[Calvin]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:15pm

Well, not all the holes in the trees are as big as Owl's!

But what do I know? I dated Eeyore for three years.

[folkyboy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:17pm

i think we've ALL dated Eeyore. he tells everyone he's just like Tigger and then cries when we all don't agree.

[RobbO]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:24pm

eeyore's my favorite, but i always wind up dating piglet.

[Calvin]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:26pm

You go for moody jackasses with a detachable tail?

[RobbO]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:29pm

always. think of the manic spending sprees!

[tazber]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:34pm

Winnie the Pooh is an obvious reference to scat.

And shall we even get into Roo being stuffed in Kanga's sack?

Updated On: 5/30/07 at 12:34 PM

[Broadwayboobs]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:40pm

Tazzy be careful..the big monkey will come after you for that comment.

Now what's a cow?

[Calvin]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:42pm

Harris' manservant?

[JailyardGuy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 12:44pm

Dinner.

[lildogs]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 1:32pm

Jaily....I'd say that photo would come back to haunt you, but the royalties probably prove otherwise.

I guess I'm a seal--though a little long in the whiskers...

[folkyboy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 2:05pm

oh i forgot about Piglet! maybe because i hated him so much

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 2:14pm

Oh lildogs, you're not long in the whiskers...you'll always be a boy to me. ;-{}

[DayDreamer]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 2:16pm

I guess I'm closest to being a bear, if it wasn't for the fact that I don't really identify with the culture.

[folkyboy]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 2:22pm

i actually enjoy the bear community a lot moreso than the gay community in general. maybe because fat guys are so hot...

[harris007]

Posted: 5/30/07 at 2:24pm

*peeks in *