Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD- Page 2

[Luscious]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 9:49am

Thanks, b12b.

tazber... the up-converter is built in, but it doesn't come with an HDMI cable. That you have to buy separately.

[tazber]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 9:53am

you guys are great, thanks!

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 9:53am

So, who's hosting movie night, Besty or Lucious?

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 9:54am

Tazzy, I updated my last post to actually answer your question. Yes, you need a special cable. (see post)

[LaurenB]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 9:57am

Doodle - I'll bring the popcorn.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:00am

Let's have an Exorcist night!!!

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:05am

Exorcist
Exorcist II: The Heretic
Exorcist 3: Legion
Exorcist 4: Beginning
Exorcist 4: Dominion

and then I will perform...
Exorcist: The Musical

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:07am

I get to be Father Merrin Mazzie.

[tazber]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:15am

LOL.

Let's do Rocky Horror style! I'll bring the pea soup.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:16am

As long as you don't throw it at my new TV!

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:21am

I can aim away from the tv, as long as your carpet can take it...

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:26am

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that one...

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:30am

Who should play Chris? Remember, she doesnt have the 11 o'clock number..."The Power of Christ Compels You!" so I doubt that Rath would consider it.

Twelvey...time to get out the tarp...again!

Updated On: 11/12/07 at 10:30 AM

[tazber]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:34am

I want the George C Scott role in Legion!

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:41am

Lieutenant Kindergarten?

It was Lee J. Cobb in the first movie. I wish Cobb had been alive to reprise his role in Exorcist III. I always loved that character. George C. Scott did a fine job with it, though. I just would have liked the familiarity of Cobb.

By the way... Who gets to sing "Burn, Baby Burn?"

Or "Caught Between Iraq and a Hard Place?"
Or "Captain Howdy, How's It Goin'?"
Or "You're Gonna Die Up There?"
Or "Mama, I Want To Pee"
Or "Why Is This Room So F*cking Cold?"
Or my personal favorite... The Temporal Lobe Ballet!

And all that's just in Act I!

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:41am

k, tazzy, but you also get the big number with Chris called "Crap, He Wants Another Cup of Coffee?!" in the first musical.

Who could play Kitty Winn? Her part stinks until part 2.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:47am

We could get Kitty herself... if she gets to sing, "What the Hell Happened to My Career after Panic in Needle Park?"

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 10:53am

Maybe we can expand her part if we make her the narrator, like in Into the Woods...at least until her number "Learn to Drive, A-hole! (I'm Just a French-fry Now!)"

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 1:02pm

And in my opinion this is the LAST "hard-copy" media format war we're going to have.


Really? I assumed that since we are now advancing into 4Gb and 8Gb flash memory cards, they would be the obvious next step, especially since DVRs have really taken flight. With incorporated card slots, the DVR could ultimately replace the VCR, DVD and eventually BD/HD-DVD players/recorders. The files could be encrypted with copyright securities that would limit the access of the files by the DVR. Those movies purchased online or cards purchased in stores could be stored on the DVR hard drive or simply viewed from the card. Cards sold to video rental services could be locked so the files could be viewed only from the cards.

At least, that is what I always imagined the next logical step to be. But technology doesn't always tend to be logical. Nifty, yes. But not necessarily logical.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 2:32pm

A DVR is still a "downloadable" device. You're recording information that is downloading into your DVR's hard drive.

You're talking about methods of storage, and either burning to high-volume discs or storing libraries on portable memory cards or external hard drives will definitely be part of that for consumers.

When I say this is the last "hard copy" media format war, I mean for the main commercial distribution of home entertainment. Just like CDs are slowly going bye-bye now. And CD stores. Downloadables are taking over. But people still save files on external drives, or make their own "hard copies" on disc for backup or portability.

We're not there yet, as I have said previously. Aside from copy protection/piracy issues, it's still not even possible to stream full 1080p resolution video, let alone record it via DVR and store it. The bandwidth won't support it, and the compression (as miraculously small as it is now with MPEG4 codecs such as H.264), it's still not small enough to manage "on the fly." It will come. Soon I think. Within the next 10 years.

Which is why I say this is the LAST hard copy format war.

[Icehouse Life]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 2:53pm

I am sure that this will be it as far as format wars are concerned. If both camps were able to settle their monetary and feature differences almost two years ago, we would not have the general public having an indifferent reaction towards both formats. This upcoming holiday season will surely determine the course of the war. I, for one, like the extra features. Let's not forget that on-demand video will make serious inroads into the consumer market now with broadband established. Standard DVDs won't go away anytime soon.

That said, I side with Blu-ray DVD because of the futureproof capablitiles up to at least 200GB (8 layers). A whole lot of electronic and entertainment companies have sided with Blu (excluding those who defected a couple months ago) and the number of titles out on the market favors Blu. I do wish it would take HD-DVD's lead in making them region-less.

Now where's my Olympic Games mega Blu-Ray DVD set....

[tazber]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 2:54pm

On a side note, one of my freinds told me that hard drives don't last forever. (relatively speaking)
So all the cds I recently imported to my new external drive should not be discarded.

What is the life span of a hard drive?

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 2:56pm

What is the life expectancy of a CD or DVD?

Hate to break it to you, but they don't last forever either.

[tazber]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 2:59pm

so is a hard drive about the same as a cd? My mom has cds that are 20 years old that are fine.

[best12bars]

Posted: 11/12/07 at 3:11pm

There is no solid answer to the question, Tazzy.

Hard drives and CD/DVDs can go bad for many reasons. Poor storage, climate conditions, bad or poorly made media, etc.

"How long" do they last, if taken care of properly... and if the media or storage device was made well and doesn't fail?... it could be several/many decades.

As we all know hard drives can last a good/long while, or they can fail the week you get them.

When CDs first came out it was said they would last upwards of "70 years!" They've been out for a little over 20 now... so in a little less than 50 years, we'll know if that assessment is true. Many people think that guess was too high already.

We'll see...

EDIT: I'll be in my mid-90s when my oldest CDs hit the 70 year mark... and if I'm still around, I'll probably be too deaf or too old to care whether I can still play them or not. And the ones that start to get "glitchy" I can make new copies of anyway (legally too, as long as I own the original).

Updated On: 11/12/07 at 03:11 PM