Brokeback Mountain won and it just seemed so ordinary- Page 13

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:33pm

I was writing in dialect, Jose.

Notice the apostrophied "jus" and the use of "lak" for "like."

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:41pm

for the record, i lowercase thread titles because when i didn't on my very first post, namo called me a sell-out...and it hurt.

i don't see a change in namo. not from when i started posting back in the dark ages before the ot board. but i do recall someone not too long ago accusing me of having changed. i don't see that either.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:45pm

Look Jrb, SERIOUSLY. I know you keep saying over and over that there has been this big change in my posts, but I can't seem to get that verified by anybody I trust that they noticed what only you, in your new Alpha Mode, have. Etoile seems to think I have mellowed. Personally, I've felt very low key the past several months.

Clearly, you have some fantasies about me, and clearly I suddenly stopped living up to them. Just the fact that you characterize your recent personality change as you daring to DEFY me, which is of course nothing that came from me but rather your own imagination. Defy away! It's not like I'm the boss of you or anything. I mean, what's to defy??? Totally your own construct.

I know I had a lot of fun with Jose during our feud year and he got it in his head that I was Richard Goldstein. And I remember Corine getting it in her head with one of her "If you are Musto I would die" posts, but she did that with everybody. As for the other people you've listed, you and "the board" may have been in discussions but I never, ever heard these Reidel and Brantley rumors. Ever. I would have laughed just as hard as the people you apparently spent time discussing this earth-shattering issue with.

Seriously, I getttttttttttttt it. I've let you down. And you're a big wig.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:50pm

What I have tried to say is that you have never been a jerk to me until I called you out on being a harpie (yes, I am using robbie's word choice of this kind of behavior) in the Madonna threads and the Brokeback threads.

You and I have been cool. No problems. For two years. But, now I am amongst your biggest BWW enemies because I called you out on your ****. And, if etoile and papa want to say that I am wrong, that you haven't done a thing wrong--fine.

I'm always willing to admit when I am wrong. I am always willing to apologize when I have done something wrong. But, no one has yet to convince me otherwise that 1. you haven't been an ***hole lately and 2. weren't worthy of being taken down a peg or three.

I've certainly had friends on here do the same with me. But, we're still friends is the BIG difference.

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:52pm

"The Feud Year."

I like the ring of that. Sounds like a novel.

Two guys meet on an message board. Because of circumstances in their lives--they're both married--they can't meet in person. Still their relationship grows and strengthens over the years. Before you get to page 69, decades have passed. One day there is no response. An email appears to one of the two. It's from the wife of the other guy...he is deceased. The living member of the duo seeks to find the answers to his buddy's death. He always recalls they had "the feud year."

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:55pm

Jose--did you see my post about writing in dialect, dear?

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:58pm

Yup.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 10:58pm

1) But, now I am amongst your biggest BWW enemies because I called you out on your ****.

Says who? This is why I think you're being calculating on the one hand and totally imagining repercussions on the other.

2) Madonna and Brokeback. I know these are two vitally important issues. And I know that I do not worship either of these two pieces of product released in the last six months. I feel as if I articulated why. And when I did that to your satisifaction vis a vis Brokeback I got the most patronizing pat on the head "that's the Namo I used to like" response from you that I thought, "Jesus, what the hell has happened to her? Who the hell does she think she is?"

I do feel like you've sensed something in me lately that has just made you POUNCE and I am not sure what it is exactly. I feel however that it coincides with this new attitude and it seems as if I am not ALONE in this thread in sensing it.

So maybe it's not really about me at all. Maybe I'm just a guest in this particular drama. (Is it the Cherry Jones quote? Was that your power pellet?)

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:01pm

Good. Sometimes we worry that you're not quite understanding things.

Updated On: 1/19/06 at 11:01 PM

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:06pm

What Cherry Jones quote?

You compared me to Mister Matt, who you HATE. You have told me repeatedly that you want nothing more to do with me--maybe I am an idiot, but that implies we ain't friendly no more.

And, I will say for the one millionth time, I never cared what you thought about Madonna or Brokeback for ****'s sake. I cared about the rude comments you made and the endless posts you made about both that were just simply rude. You weren't offering an intelligent or even common criticism 90% of the time. You were just being a jerk. You constantly attacked me for liking things that you deemed bad. And, I got fed up with it. It was so out of hand, I had two choices--block you or bitch at you.

So, I bitched at you. And then, you bitched back. Fast forward weeks later and we have escalated to the most ridiculous fight ever on this board.

Updated On: 1/19/06 at 11:06 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:11pm

No, Jrby. The fight that Robbie and I had on this very thread was the "most ridiculous fight ever on this board."

This is the SECOND "most ridiculous fight ever on this board."

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:11pm

oh please, there have many more ridiculous fights than this one.

[Plum]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:13pm

This argument can't be the most ridiculous by virtue of all the participants having at least 2 brain cells to rub together.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:13pm

What part of your own narrative is so hard to follow?

Your money quote from Cherry Jones about your show. Is THAT what gave you wings?

I don't HATE MisterMatt. I said you were channeling his protector of people who are perfectly capable of defending themselves mode. Something I used to tease him about every single time he did it.

"And, I will say for the one millionth time, I never cared what you thought about Madonna or Brokeback for ****'s sake."

Then at long last, Jrb, why do you take it alllllll sooooooo personally? And if for the millionth time you never cared, then why do you turn around and say "You constantly attacked me for liking things that you deemed bad." Well, we know you don't mean Brokeback, since you didn't like it. But for some reason must call ME on my not liking it.

Let me tell you what it's been like reading YOU lately, espectially your beyond schizophrenic arguing both sides against the middle discussions of Brokeback, it's been like the fun house scene in Touch of Evil.

Updated On: 1/19/06 at 11:13 PM

[harris007]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:14pm

hey dont u be picking on jerby

[robbiej]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:15pm

And why the F*CK am I being dragged back into this SH*T?

Un-F*CKing-real.

[Plum]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:15pm

harris, you're a tad late.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:16pm

I started pouncing on you way before my show.

And, I'm sorry if you can't wrap your mind around my thoughts on Brokeback. I'm not all or nothing on complex issues. I see the shades of gray. I'm not black or white most of the time. And, I have absolutely no shame in that.

Updated On: 1/19/06 at 11:16 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:19pm

You have to see that you are willing to forgive f any inconsistencies and contradictions in yourself. To let yourself off the hook for anything.

And yet, when I pointed out that my inconsistencies and contradictions are exactly as they have always been, you're all over me with the "OH YOU HAVE CHAAAAAAAAAANGED."

And that is why I stand by my assertion that you just keep doing the things you accuse me of over and over. That's fine. Maddening, but fine.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:24pm

Are you REALLY left with "I know you are, but what am I"?

There are no contradictions in my opinions about Brokeback. It is very clear. You just can't handle the fact that I can separate my stance on the film based on individual factors. You won't allow that I can 1. be disappointed with how the story dealt with this issue, 2. yet still think it was fine film making, and 3. still side with the film against the Pat Robertsons of the world.

And, I have also stated that my disappointment is unfair as who I am to dictate what this film should BE and REPRESENT.

We can disagree on these things, but you showed NO respect to my opinions.

[harris007]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:24pm

i mean it

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:25pm

Don't mean it. You don't know the meaning of it.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:27pm

Harris--this thread is Unsafe for Cows and Other Living Creatures.

It's TOXIC!

[Luscious]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:29pm

Toxic... but entertaining as hell! You just don't find this much passion on most boards.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/19/06 at 11:30pm

I showed no respect for your opinions? Guess what? People don't have to respect each other's opinions. People's right to HAVE opinions, sure? But, when it's three separate opinions rolled into one, it seems a bit philistine-ish, covering the bases, if you will. Let's just say I respect one of your three opinons on Brokeback and leave it at that.

Are you REALLY left with "I know you are, but what am I"?

That's cute, but doesn't address what I asked.

Updated On: 1/19/06 at 11:30 PM