CBC fires Jian Gomeshi for having kinky sex — Page 4

I went to the memorial show they had for Becca. She's funny as Melissa Mahoney.

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A really interesting piece in Salon today, based on a (public) Facebook post written by a friend of Ghomeshi's.

Also, maybe it's time to change the thread title to reflect what Mr. Ghomeshi was actually fired for: beating women.



"Jian Ghomeshi is my friend, and Jian Ghomeshi beats women"

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Updated On: 10/30/14 at 11:29 AM

Maybe because women who allege sexual abuse almost always find their credibility being called into question, as has already happened in this case.

In a perfect world, everything would come down to "criminal allegations that are proven or not in a court of law." In the real world, things are messier and extenuating factors (like gender, sexuality, race, fame/notoriety, opinions on BDSM etc etc etc) are often dragged into the debate.

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The "bitch be crazy" accusation is hardly a male thing. You see women saying the same thing about each other daily on any daytime/reality show. It's a classic universal shut-down maneuver. And sometimes, it's actually true.

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So we can never have a simple criminal case again?

I never even heard of this guy before this story. But every time I click on something about this story, I end up reading about how women are never believed.

I don't have any reason to believe them or disbelieve them. I would just like to listen to the allegations without having to listen to how women aren't listened to.

And is it every allegation that should result in getting fired? Or are there other crimes that will have to wait until the allegations are proven in a court of law?

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Right? They awful.

Who what?

I don't know why you have to suffer through women bitching about not being heard, though. To your question about a simple criminal case, I guess it's tougher when the person is in the public eye. I'd never heard of him either until this. He know a lot of crazy bitches, though.

Remember when Sutton Foster and a bunch of people got an anti-gay-marriage guy fired?

Which is what?

And who was the anti-gay marriage guy and what did he to to Sutton Foster?

Her I would believe!

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I have no idea what his Morals clause says. I was just pointing out that there probably was one in his contract, and such clauses have been used to justify termination if there is private conduct that could be viewed unfavorably. He also states:

"Let me be the first to say that my tastes in the bedroom may not be palatable to some folks. They may be strange, enticing, weird, normal, or outright offensive to others. We all have our secret life. But that is my private life. That is my personal life. And no one, and certainly no employer, should have dominion over what people do consensually in their private life."

To the extent that his private conduct, when made public, runs afoul of his contracts morals clause will depend on the contract.

Updated On: 10/30/14 at 04:40 PM

I think this morals clause discussion is out of chronological order, since his Facebook post came after he was fired. So, he was already fired when that appeared, not because of it.

ETA: Haterobics is correct. The timing was that on Thursday he gave CBC:

"a voluntary disclosure of a scandal he feared was about to break, due to the efforts of “a jilted ex girlfriend and a freelance writer.” The disclosure included what Mr. Ghomeshi described as exculpatory evidence, proving the “rough sex” in question was consensual. He said the allegations and insinuations of “unsavoury aggressive acts in the bedroom,” as yet unmade in any formal or legal context, were “categorically untrue,” and that CBC executives said he was being dismissed essentially for the ugly optics of the situation, due to “the risk of the perception that may come from a story that could come out.”"

What I read is that by trying to frame the story, he basically validated it in the minds of CBC.


As for Morals Clauses, they are more common among entertainers and athletes - individuals whose conduct could impact the brand they are affiliated with. You also seem them in some divorce settlements. I am sure it is the reason that the "Honey Boo Boo" show was cancelled on TLC. Tiger Woods lost sponsors because of these types of clauses. Here is a discussion. As its states, they are usually broader than conviction, and can include language similar to the following:

"If at any time while Artist is rendering or obligated to render on-camera services for the program hereunder, Artist is involved in any situation or occurrence which subjects Artist to public scandal, disrepute, widespread contempt, public ridicule, [or which is widely deemed by members of the general public, to embarrass, offend, insult or denigrate individuals or groups,] or that will tend to shock, insult or offend the community or public morals or decency or prejudice the Producer in general, then Producer shall have the right, in its sole discretion, to take any action it deems appropriate, including but not limited to terminating the production of the program."

Again, I have no idea what the clause actually says, but would not be surprised if it exists and was a basis for the decision.



Morals Clauses

Updated On: 10/30/14 at 04:51 PM

It sounds like the CBC fired Gomeshi in anticipation of the Star article, which had been in the works for a while.

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