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#51

re: Christo Event

Well, I traipsed through the Park today to experience what everyone was talking about.

Aesthetically, I wish the color were a little richer. They, in fact, are not construction cone orange. The color on the beams could stand to be a tad more vibrant. The fabric itself was a little too industrial for me. Although I'm sure it wouldn't be feasible, I would have LOVED it to have been weighted sheers that allow you to see through it and truly catch the breeze. I also would have loved if the fabric had variation in color...all in the same tonal family, just a little more interest.

That said, I thought it was a wonderful walk through the Park. It was PACKED and many people seemed enchanted...or at least interested. Since I had nowhere to be, I took the leisurely stroll, trying to figure out what this instillation meant to me. And then I realized I hadn't been in the Park for about a year. And I had forgotten what a haven it is. All the people, out of towners and locals, and the visual stimulus made for a vigoration walk. Bravo!
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#52

re: Christo Event

I walked through today, and I really enjoyed it. The saffron color is more prominent when the fabric blows toward the sky and you see the sun shining through the fabric. I think it's wonderful to be able to see the many gates blowing in the wind. And to look across the park and see all the gates winding around the walking paths. I think New York is lucky to experience this.

I liked what Jeanne-Claude said: It is only temporary and will live on in "once upon a time".
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#53

re: Christo Event

I wish I was able to go to NYC to see them for myself only after reading this thread. I do not care for Christo, never have. I also never heard/read such strong pro- and anti- feelings about his work... it's so awesome! I love to see that *art* can still stir up feelings in people and cause them to be so passionate about it! Go for it. I still think they look dumb, but hey... that's just my opinion. You should see the ruckus caused in Seattle by the prospect of having a nude male statue in a downtown park. re: Christo Event You'd think it was the nazi flag or something.

RE: Tourists, be careful how you judge people from other countries. I'll let you know that while vacationing in Europe I realized how much they dislike American tourists. And for good reason. They are loud, demanding, expect everyone to speak English, and get upset when the comforts of home cannot be found there. Yes... some are like that, but not all. But enough for a generalization.
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#54

re: Christo Event

ElTico, well put (re: both the art discussion and our perceptions on tourists). That (the latter) was what I was trying to say on page 2.

I have to say while aesthetically speaking, I'm not a fan of this current exhibit, at least it gets people talking. re: Christo Event

And on a small threadjack, has anyone seen the MoMA since it re-opened?
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#55

re: Christo Event

Yes, Tiff - I was last at MoMA on Friday. The building in itself is a work of art - it's perfect. It's my favorite place.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#56

re: Christo Event

Another born and bred NYer here.
re: Christo Event
#57

re: Christo Event

I gotta agree with José on this. I'm all for public art in Central Park - but I think these orange shower curtains look pretty wimpy and diffuse.

If he wants to wrap the Bethesda Fountain, fine. I think that would have at least had some visual heft to it. But this display does nothing for me.

And I'm not a snob about contemporary art. I think the Met was insane to pay $47 million for a small "Madonna & Child" by Duccio.
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"

Updated On: 2/14/05 at 09:55 PM

#58

re: Christo Event

Saw it the day of the opening and wasn't impressed. Yeah, it was pretty enough. I took some pictures. But really, a big artistic event? Nah.
#59

re: Christo Event

The epitome of empty, banal and thoroughly uninteresting postmodern "art." A big, yawning, media-hyped and disgraceful bore.

Updated On: 2/14/05 at 10:42 PM

#60

re: Christo Event

If it was uninteresting no one would care about it - it's hardly uninteresting.

How is it a disgrace? You sound miserable...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#61

re: Christo Event

My favorite city art is all over the city and it is whimsical works all over Broadway.
The best one is in front of Lincoln Center. Two people taking a nap. One looks like a frog. It is adorable. Love that artist.
Tom Ottenberg or something like that.

Updated On: 2/14/05 at 10:44 PM

#62

re: Christo Event

How is it uninteresting? In the same way Sr. Wendy Beckett, the art historian, describes Serrano's Piss Christ: once you get past your first impression, there is nothing left to consider.
FYI, pretension in the arts is enough to make anyone with an honest bone in their body miserable.

Updated On: 2/14/05 at 10:50 PM

#63

re: Christo Event

I still don't understand why you're against it.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#64

re: Christo Event

It's one thing to not like the exhibit. It's another to feel that it shouldn't be displayed just because you don't like it. I think it's quite ugly, personally, but that's my own taste. I'd still rather see that hideousity (yeah, that's my word) up there and have it garner discussion about the arts than for people to continue on their day without any stimulation to their senses, be it positive or negative.
"It's not always about you!!!" (But if you think I'm referring to you anyway, then I probably am.)

"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater

"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
#65

re: Christo Event

In response to Jose's original criticism of Christo and Jeanne-Claude, I found the following on their website:

What are the other products, who gets the money from them?
Christo and Jeanne-Claude have donated all merchandising rights from The Gates to Nurture New York's Nature (associated with the Carriage House Center for Global Issues Foundation), and to The Central Park Conservancy.

Hand-signed posters of The Gates are sold by NNYN. Christo and Jeanne-Claude gave the rights to sell posters as a part of this gift. All the funds go to NNYN. Click here to see their web site.

Christo and Jeanne-Claude do not receive any revenue whatever from the sales of any article based on this gift of posters and merchandising rights.


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#66

re: Christo Event

Yea, I read that in the newspaper as well. People who are against this really have no reason to be...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson
#67

re: Christo Event

The extreme 'proprietorship' being exhibited is really interesting to me. This is a very temporary alteration to what is already a man-made environment, however lovely and naturally reminiscent it might be. Obviously, there are many who are deriving pleasure from it - even if it's only from a heightened state of interest in something they mainly took for granted. I can see no real disadvantage, which leads me to think that there is something entirely different at play in the overtly negative and perjoritive responses.
#68

re: Christo Event

If he had done the flags in rainbow hues how many of you would LOVE it?
#69

re: Christo Event

I wish I could look at it the way robbiej did - but I just can't get past the color, the actual construction and the constant "What the f?" that goes through my mind when I view it. To me, it seems like a colosal waste of time, materials, and energy. I love the park as it stands without these monstrous enhancements. And though I understand completely how NYC can benefit from the tourism income - I have to say that I just couldn't abide the huge crowds of on-lookers in the park who seemed oblivious to the people who were there to do things like exercise, etc. So, I'm one you can count as a "strongly dislike" vote.
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#70

re: Christo Event

I'd probably love it in rainbow colors, SOMMS, or any other color. It's the damn Construction Orange hue that's what makes the whole sight unattractive and unappealing to me. I'm baffled at the excitement of New Yorkers and tourists alike. I keep picturing it in different colors and wishing it were so.
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#71

re: Christo Event

I had heard nothing about it, so when I saw it I was 'What the hell?', and it seemed to me that a lot of other people were wondering the same thing. And I agree with Rath, orange is a disgusting, vile color, and should never be seen, let alone celebrated.
#72

re: Christo Event

Orange is my favorite color.
#73

re: Christo Event

That's good SOMMS, because I think to make this installation complete, there needs to be a video of you running through it naked.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#74

re: Christo Event

It truly is my favorite color and has been since the age of 4 when I grabbed that fateful Crayola. It makes me happy, it brings me joy and hope and I wear it at least 3-4 times a week, if not more. Rath, I would love to be in Central Park right now skipping the light au natural through the banners.

It's such a great color that as the M&M ad points out; nothing rhymes with orange.

Updated On: 2/15/05 at 09:47 AM

#75

re: Christo Event

SOMMS, you are a man after my own color palatte.

Since I've come to NYC, for some reason I've found myself drawn to the color orange. It's vibrant, warming and exciting. A couple of years ago, I bought an orange hoodie sweatshirt. My friends told me I looked like a construction worker. I told them 'Orange is HOT'...six months later, orange was huge. I loved it so much, I painted an accent wall in my old apartment Rhumba Orange. It was specatcular and set off my framed FOLLIES, OH, CALCUTTA!, and THREEPENNY (w/ Raul Julia) ablum covers beautifully.

I think it's a an exciting color.

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