#26
Posted: 11/11/13 at 2:01pm
I am not white nor do I make 73,000 a year...guess what? I have a Citi Bike membership.
#27
Posted: 11/11/13 at 2:06pm
Glad to hear it Carlos! unftly, youre in the minority according to Citibikes own stats.
Come to think of it, i have not seen any people of color on those bikes.
the reason really is they refuse to put them in neighborhoods that arent well to do or hipster.
Come to think of it, i have not seen any people of color on those bikes.
the reason really is they refuse to put them in neighborhoods that arent well to do or hipster.
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#28
Posted: 11/11/13 at 2:10pm
You don't know if you've never seen anyone "of color" because believe it or not there are people of color that look just as white as the next white person. And for the record I am not a minority OF ANYTHING. Let's be clear on that.
#29
Posted: 11/11/13 at 2:13pm
sue, that article was from June. About a limited roll out.
What the hell was your point in linking it?
What the hell was your point in linking it?
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#30
Posted: 11/11/13 at 2:15pm
As usual she's trying to start a race war...she is soooo transparent that it's laughable.
#31
Posted: 11/11/13 at 2:17pm
Here's a link to the bike map in Paris.
The bike stands are concentrated in the center of the city.
JUST LIKE NEW YORK.
Just like every other city in the world that has a bike share program.
Paris Bike map
The bike stands are concentrated in the center of the city.
JUST LIKE NEW YORK.
Just like every other city in the world that has a bike share program.
Paris Bike map
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#32
Posted: 11/11/13 at 2:21pm
Having a high density of stations is the best way to ensure a dependable and fair total riding time. In deciding how far apart to place stations within these boundaries, New York will follow in the footsteps of Paris. That system established the industry density standard of about 28 stations per square mile. If you're on the metric system, that's a station every 300 meters; for New Yorkers, it means one every two or three blocks.
"The number one indicator of success is density of stations," says Cohen. "You don't want to have stations more than a couple blocks away from each other. In the off-chance, hopefully, that someone encounters a completely full or empty station, they don't have to walk far to a station that does have capacity or bicycles."
(and yes, this article isn't recent - but it's the information shared at the time the decision to participate in a bike-sharing program was made)
The Methodology of Bike-Share Station Placement
"The number one indicator of success is density of stations," says Cohen. "You don't want to have stations more than a couple blocks away from each other. In the off-chance, hopefully, that someone encounters a completely full or empty station, they don't have to walk far to a station that does have capacity or bicycles."
(and yes, this article isn't recent - but it's the information shared at the time the decision to participate in a bike-sharing program was made)
The Methodology of Bike-Share Station Placement
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Updated On: 11/11/13 at 02:21 PM
#33
Im not sure what the date has to do with anything, the stats are the stats....
New York’s bike program is primarily reaching one demographic, Morrison writes. “Riders are mostly white, male, and live in households with six-figure incomes,” according to Ginsburg, who added, “This is great if you’re a marketing person.” But neighborhood incomes are not the sole factor when it comes to determining where to expand.
“If it was just a purely dollars and cents decision, we would be going to the Upper West Side next,” said Ginsburg.
As it stands now, bike stations are found below 60th Street in Manhattan and select neighborhoods in West Brooklyn.
With that data in mind, Charles Komanoff, the moderator of the panel, said the program needs to expand more than just geographically. “Now that it’s been proven successful, they need to commit themselves to reaching out to communities that aren’t as affluent,” said Komanoff.
The next neighborhoods in line for Citi Bikes are those in Brooklyn “contiguous” with those where the program is already present, said Ginsburg.
But Komanoff said inequities still need to be addressed. “At the end of the day, $95 for people at the margin is money that they don’t have to begin with,” said Komanoff.
http://www.voicesofny.org/2013/09/citi-bike-succeeds-in-numbers-not-diversity/
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and the new stations are yuppie/hypster central...
The most common hurdle to bike-share equity is a lack of stations in low-income neighborhoods. The city’s immediate expansion plans for Citi Bike will result in 10,000 bikes at 600 stations (there isn’t a fixed date for those additions yet). But the majority of the proposed additional locations – Greenpoint and Park Slope in Brooklyn, Long Island City in Queens, and the Upper East Side and Upper West Side in Manhattan – aren’t where lower-income New Yorkers live. It could be a long time before Bushwick, Brownsville or Mott Haven sees a bike kiosk, if ever.
Posted: 11/11/13 at 3:38pm
Im not sure what the date has to do with anything, the stats are the stats....
New York’s bike program is primarily reaching one demographic, Morrison writes. “Riders are mostly white, male, and live in households with six-figure incomes,” according to Ginsburg, who added, “This is great if you’re a marketing person.” But neighborhood incomes are not the sole factor when it comes to determining where to expand.
“If it was just a purely dollars and cents decision, we would be going to the Upper West Side next,” said Ginsburg.
As it stands now, bike stations are found below 60th Street in Manhattan and select neighborhoods in West Brooklyn.
With that data in mind, Charles Komanoff, the moderator of the panel, said the program needs to expand more than just geographically. “Now that it’s been proven successful, they need to commit themselves to reaching out to communities that aren’t as affluent,” said Komanoff.
The next neighborhoods in line for Citi Bikes are those in Brooklyn “contiguous” with those where the program is already present, said Ginsburg.
But Komanoff said inequities still need to be addressed. “At the end of the day, $95 for people at the margin is money that they don’t have to begin with,” said Komanoff.
http://www.voicesofny.org/2013/09/citi-bike-succeeds-in-numbers-not-diversity/
***
and the new stations are yuppie/hypster central...
The most common hurdle to bike-share equity is a lack of stations in low-income neighborhoods. The city’s immediate expansion plans for Citi Bike will result in 10,000 bikes at 600 stations (there isn’t a fixed date for those additions yet). But the majority of the proposed additional locations – Greenpoint and Park Slope in Brooklyn, Long Island City in Queens, and the Upper East Side and Upper West Side in Manhattan – aren’t where lower-income New Yorkers live. It could be a long time before Bushwick, Brownsville or Mott Haven sees a bike kiosk, if ever.
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#34
"What the hell was your point in linking it?"
To troll.
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:25pm
"What the hell was your point in linking it?"
To troll.
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#35
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:31pm
My point is, that nothing in this city gets done unless its for the well to do. the citibike program was thought to be diff but in the end it is not. thats why all the bike stands are in yuppie/hypster areas. None in the poor areas that are very concentrated.
Gosh, i cant win, i figured the progressives and have-not advocates on here would be with me on this
Gosh, i cant win, i figured the progressives and have-not advocates on here would be with me on this
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#36
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:35pm
Sue if you don't like New York or the USA why don't you go back home?
#37
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:37pm
the progressives, have not advocates on here would be with me on this
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#38
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:51pm
Sue, the selection criteria was outlined in the article I linked, and mirrors what has taken place in other cities around the world.
The editorial that it's only for the "well-to-do" appears to be yours. It was not identified as such in the article I linked.
The editorial that it's only for the "well-to-do" appears to be yours. It was not identified as such in the article I linked.
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#39
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:54pm
NYADGAL it is in the two articles I linked.
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#40
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:56pm
Sue you DO consider you & your family Well to do, don't you? To me living in New York city snd having a car (or Apparently in your family's case, at lest couple cars) is the definition of well-to-do.
#41
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:57pm
yes Joe, i was thinking of others not myself. i have my own bike that i ride
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#42
Posted: 11/11/13 at 4:59pm
Just so people who are actually interested in issues like the one being trumped up by the troll, the Hubway bike sharing program in the Boston-Cambridge-Somerville MA area, has seen bike station locations expanded toward the end of this summer into the Roxbury and Dorchester neighborhoods, where residents in the area are mostly people of color. Since this is the second year of the program, I suppose some people who aren't really interested in the historic lack of services in neighborhoods of color would have dismissed the whole program as a failure from day one, because that's what trolls do, right before labeling people who ARE really interested in such phenomena as "have not advocates."
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#43
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:05pm
sue, you miss my point.
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#44
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:12pm
What was the name of the horrible troll that recently wrote "you love you bike, I love my SUV"?
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#45
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:12pm
Gal, i think your point is that they are in the center of the city.
but NYC is not Paris (as anyone who has ever been to Paris can tell you) ... there are more people in parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn and Queens than there are on the Upper East side
I dont mean to argue with you, i'm just saying that when this was first proposed Bloomberg and his Transportation chief said it would help the poor. Now im sure they knew that was the way to get this approved, the same way some people always bring up "its good for the children" when they want something done
but NYC is not Paris (as anyone who has ever been to Paris can tell you) ... there are more people in parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn and Queens than there are on the Upper East side
I dont mean to argue with you, i'm just saying that when this was first proposed Bloomberg and his Transportation chief said it would help the poor. Now im sure they knew that was the way to get this approved, the same way some people always bring up "its good for the children" when they want something done
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#46
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:16pm
According to the map I linked, there are NO stations on the Upper East Side.
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#47
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:20pm
Why would the most wealthy people in the city be interested in a bike sharing program?
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#48
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:24pm
NYGAL, mostly Manhattan, none in harlem or the poorer areas about 110 street. None in the Bronx. None in Queens, None in Brooklyn aside from hypster heaven western NY and yuppyville Prospect part area. Upper East side starts along Central Park. While not all the way there a good portion up to 66 street is. I remember that some UES fought the bikes including around the MET
http://citibikenyc.com/stations
Please show me the poorer parts like harlem, bedsty, Jamaica, the projects where they have bike stands.
http://citibikenyc.com/stations
Please show me the poorer parts like harlem, bedsty, Jamaica, the projects where they have bike stands.
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#49
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:25pm
Would a bike sharing program in the parts of the city most frequented by tourists and commuters not be the most logical?
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#50
Posted: 11/11/13 at 5:28pm
Kad my original point which you are agreeing with is this was built for the usual people. Tourists, yuppies, hypsters. Not as they claimed, the poor, the have-nots,
thats all. Bloomie and CC mislead the people. for the life of me i do not understand why people who usually rail against this sort of thing have no prob with it. seriously
thats all. Bloomie and CC mislead the people. for the life of me i do not understand why people who usually rail against this sort of thing have no prob with it. seriously
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