Congress has reached an agreement on the bailout
#2
Posted: 9/25/08 at 1:33pm
Hahaha, poor ole john threw the hail mary and it got intercepted and run back for a touchdown. It's getting to be about time to bench the old boy.
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Undoubtedly, Shrubbery and Faux Noise will try to credit McCain with saving the day.
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Undoubtedly, Shrubbery and Faux Noise will try to credit McCain with saving the day.
Updated On: 9/25/08 at 01:33 PM
#3
Posted: 9/25/08 at 1:35pm
Here's a link to MSNBC's story:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/
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#4
Posted: 9/25/08 at 1:43pm
Has John McCain's plane even landed in Washington yet? This has NOTHING to do with him.
#5
Posted: 9/25/08 at 1:51pm
Part of McCain's statement to the Clinton Global Initiative this morning:
"I cannot carry on a campaign as though this dangerous situation had not occurred, or as though a solution were at hand, which it clearly is not. As of this morning I suspended my political campaign...
It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration's proposal to meet the crisis. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time. So I am returning to Washington to seek five fundamental improvements to this critical legislation."
"I cannot carry on a campaign as though this dangerous situation had not occurred, or as though a solution were at hand, which it clearly is not. As of this morning I suspended my political campaign...
It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration's proposal to meet the crisis. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time. So I am returning to Washington to seek five fundamental improvements to this critical legislation."
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
-- Thomas Jefferson
#6
Posted: 9/25/08 at 1:53pm
So umm, this dangerous situation should bring about an end to the campaign? Is the constant threat of terror attack, or the ongoing wars in two countries not arguably a more dangerous situation? Especially when you put all 3 together. What's he going to do if there is an attack? Declare that Bush should postpone the election until a more stable time?
#7
Posted: 9/25/08 at 1:54pm
"Declare that Bush should postpone the election until a more stable time?"
Don't give anyone any ideas.
Don't give anyone any ideas.
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#8
Posted: 9/25/08 at 1:56pm
I think stole the gist of my post from Rachel Maddow last night, so blame her if that happens.
#9
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:01pm
There is no historical precedent for "Suspending the campaign" because of crisis by the way- President Carter (at the time a sitting president) decided not to go on the road to campaign during the Iranian hostage crisis (And Reagan excoriated him for it) but was still able to attend the presidential debates.
Gore & Bush debated only days after the Cole attack in 2000.
Gore & Bush debated only days after the Cole attack in 2000.
#10
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:18pm
The election cannot be postponed or changed in any way without a constitutional amendment. The date is fixed in the document--the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November.
I want to know how much corporate welfare is involved, direct and indirect;
What benefit to the nation at large will occur;
How much oversight of this 700,000,000,000 dollars there will be;
And what happens when the administration changes on January 20th, 2009?
Is the Secretary of the Treasury to become an economic Rumsfeld?
I want to know how much corporate welfare is involved, direct and indirect;
What benefit to the nation at large will occur;
How much oversight of this 700,000,000,000 dollars there will be;
And what happens when the administration changes on January 20th, 2009?
Is the Secretary of the Treasury to become an economic Rumsfeld?
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#11
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:19pm
The election cannot be postponed or changed in any way without a constitutional amendment.
like that's ever stopped bush before
like that's ever stopped bush before
#12
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:22pm
Constitution? We don't need no stinking constitution.
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#13
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:22pm
The swiftness of an agreement does NOT help McCain in any way, shape, or form:
The news that lawmakers have come to an agreement in principle on a bailout plan seems to have come just a few hours too early for John McCain.
A McCain spokesman tells Salon the Republican nominee was in Washington, D.C. before the deal was announced, and that he attended meetings on the bailout. But it appears that McCain wasn't in on the meeting that mattered, the closed-door session that ended with an agreement. Instead, McCain was in House Minority Leader John Boehner's office with Sens. Jon Kyl, Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman. Moreover, McCain was not in the nation's capital for very long before the deal was announced, and he didn't get a chance to be in on the celebratory photo-op. The photo-op that will likely accompany the meeting at the White House this afternoon will be a poor substitute.
The timing of this bolsters the credibility of earlier reports that negotiators were very close to a deal, even as McCain said his help was urgently needed. The "suspension" of his campaign -- his surrogates have been on television all day -- was a gamble that could have paid off if he could portray himself as an integral factor in getting something done. It will be very hard to spin this that way now, though it will be interesting to see who tries, and how.
The news that lawmakers have come to an agreement in principle on a bailout plan seems to have come just a few hours too early for John McCain.
A McCain spokesman tells Salon the Republican nominee was in Washington, D.C. before the deal was announced, and that he attended meetings on the bailout. But it appears that McCain wasn't in on the meeting that mattered, the closed-door session that ended with an agreement. Instead, McCain was in House Minority Leader John Boehner's office with Sens. Jon Kyl, Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman. Moreover, McCain was not in the nation's capital for very long before the deal was announced, and he didn't get a chance to be in on the celebratory photo-op. The photo-op that will likely accompany the meeting at the White House this afternoon will be a poor substitute.
The timing of this bolsters the credibility of earlier reports that negotiators were very close to a deal, even as McCain said his help was urgently needed. The "suspension" of his campaign -- his surrogates have been on television all day -- was a gamble that could have paid off if he could portray himself as an integral factor in getting something done. It will be very hard to spin this that way now, though it will be interesting to see who tries, and how.
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#14
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:25pm
I think we know who WON'T be in front of the press trying to spin it. Mr. Tucker Gets Embarassed By Reporters.
#15
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:26pm
This will be very difficult for McCain, his surrogates, or the Republican talking heads to spin in any positive manner. They'll try, of course, but it'll be hard to keep a straight face trying to talk about this in a positive light for McCain.
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-- Thomas Jefferson
#16
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:26pm
Remember that Giuliani wanted to do postpone NYC Mayor elections shortly after 9/11.
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#17
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:27pm
but why is Sarah Palin at Ground Zero today holding a press conference if McCain is halting his campaign for this issue? she was there before this decision was even made. was Johnny-boy on the phone with her telling her to stop it when the final call was made "behind the closed door session"?
#18
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:37pm
"The first Tuesday after the first Monday" applies to Federal elections.
Did you notice how far Giuliani's election suspension idea got? Zip, nix, nil, nada, bupkis, rien. How fast was this 'idea' shot down? It got no traction from anyone whatsoever.
No one with a lick of sense would go after such a direct clause in the US Constitution. Not even Cheney who has bigger balls than just about anybody. Talk about 'high crimes and misdemeanors'. There is no clause for a state of emergency.
Did you notice how far Giuliani's election suspension idea got? Zip, nix, nil, nada, bupkis, rien. How fast was this 'idea' shot down? It got no traction from anyone whatsoever.
No one with a lick of sense would go after such a direct clause in the US Constitution. Not even Cheney who has bigger balls than just about anybody. Talk about 'high crimes and misdemeanors'. There is no clause for a state of emergency.
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--Carrie Fisher
#19
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:41pm
"Governor Palin, what is you favorite color of eye liner?"
McCain's stunt shows a lack of courage and campaign suffering because of a lack of ideas!
McCain's stunt shows a lack of courage and campaign suffering because of a lack of ideas!
#20
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:44pm
This is honestly looking less like a stunt and more like a full-on meltdown.
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#21
Posted: 9/25/08 at 2:48pm
I think McCain was just missing Lieberman and wanted to give him a big smooch.
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#22
Posted: 9/25/08 at 3:03pm
Barney Frank: "Some of us have been invited to the White House to try and break a deadlock, and I'm glad that well be able to go and tell them that there isn't that much of a deadlock to break." He paused and added, "But I'm always glad to get to go to the White House."
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
-- Thomas Jefferson
#23
Posted: 9/25/08 at 3:07pm
I'm looking forward to hearing the details. And I wonder if they're be half as good as YWIW's. She rocked (in the other thread)!
If they aren't, we need to send her to congress fast.
If they aren't, we need to send her to congress fast.
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#24
Posted: 9/25/08 at 6:11pm
Perhaps they spoke too soon?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/25/campaign.wrap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/25/campaign.wrap/index.html
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