Electoral Vote Predictor 2004 — Page 2

i'm surprised at you, pal. i was sure that you'd be of the mind that osama was being held at some remote location for unveiling at the proper time. but, pal, you should really watch that kinda language as our cambodian warrior of the band aid variety purple hearts has said he doesn't want people making that case. this campaign should be about issues, not slander (or since we're typing this, libel), right?

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Updated On: 8/23/04 at 05:16 PM

At least he remembered to let go of the grenade. I'm not so confident Dubya would've done as well. What a shame that would've been...

Updated On: 8/23/04 at 05:28 PM

Yes, I know. Bob Dole and John Kerry were both very brave.

George Bush, on the other hand, was doing cocaine and playing hooky from the National Guard.

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Another Bush lie: When Bush signed McCain-Feingold, he opposed the provisions in it curtailing the ads. Now he's saying he SUPPORTED curtailing the ads.

Another Bush flip-flop.

Another Bush lie.

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that george, he's playing the people for patsies. he's some kinda evil genius, oh no wait, that can't be true, he's too dumb to butter his own toast. hmmm, it's a connundrum.

cute, matti, but unfortunately that kinda evidence is only good enough for fox and they're obviously not interested.

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Updated On: 8/23/04 at 06:00 PM

noted holocaust scholar, robert jan van pelt, ph.d., professor of architetcure at the university of waterloo, canada, author of the case for auschwitz and co-author of auschwitz with deborah dwork, looked into this rovian matter:


"I have studied for over 14 years the history and construction of Auschwitz-Birkenau, the center of the Holocaust with more than 1 million victims, mostly Jews, but I do not remember having seen any document linking the firm Roverer Süd-Deutsche Ingenieurbüro to the construction of that camp. I could do some research into this matter—sometimes outside engineers provided the equivalent of what we would call today building code consultancy (in WW II they had to sign off that the project used building materials in accordance with the regulations concerning wartime rationing). But if the firm had been contracted to do such work, it would have been a very minor matter. What is absolutely certain is that Roverer neither designed, nor constructed Birkenau. That camp was designed by the architects of the SS Zentralbauleitung in Auschwitz, with the major responsibility going to Karl Bischoff and Fritz Ertl."

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Updated On: 8/23/04 at 06:40 PM

being a german at the time of world war 2 and being the firm that designed and built birkenau are two completely different things. i'm not saying they were anti-nazi, they probably did whatever job they could get at the time. but the specific charge you make is false, it's an abhorent connection to make. next time you want to cry the victim, just remember how quick you were to smear someone with a taint far worse than cowardice or lying.

you made a competely unverified charge of not only complicity in mass murder but one of profiting from the deaths of millions. the fact that it is untrue, doesn't even concern you in the least. the fact that you used the suffering of others for your own supposed gain to merely make political points is perverse.

and you wonder why the political debate in the country has sunk this low? look in the mirror, pal. i hope you have plenty of jewish friends who support your using their families and trauma for political gain without even bothering to research it. you're a disgusting example of the worst kind of partisan politics. no wonder you hate the swifties so much, people always despise in others what they hate most about themselves.

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"you're a disgusting example of the worst kind of partisan politics."

Stop calling me names, Papa, or Rob will have to delete this thread!

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August 24 - Kerry 307 Bush 211

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It just keeps bouncing! It should get very interesting in the next few weeks.

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Lol. Hey, Cheney's already "softening" up the Republicans to make them look all Compassionately Conservative again. once they win, it'll be back to bombing third world countries, but, for convention time, we love everyone, even as we steal their rights and/or lives.

Bwaysinger, as usual, the "softening" was a sound bite only, as the Platform committee ruled harshly on that issue.

Tuesday's Zogby's poll had Kerry ahead in Florida by 1%, today's Gallup has Bush ahead by 2%. Poll-wise, it's up in the air...but it's Florida.