Gay Jews — Page 3

I swear to bethnor, I hit the button once. Then I got a very weird error message in giant blue type on a white background--a first for me.

I've lost track of how often it posted, but apologies!

bethnor, read the following book if you want to understand the point AC is making. The point is that many theologians believe the book has been gravely mistranslated from the original language as well as tainted and very much taken out of context. Therefore, no, one can not say, "leviticus either says homosexuality is an abomination or it doesn't. if it does say this, it is either true, or it isn't. it quite clearly DOES say that" or similar such comments because what the printed edition people read now says and what the original scrolls said are not the same thing.

My point in this discussion overall is that if you ARE going to believe in the Bible, at least know the truth behind what you are reading. And like too many things, too much of our society is majorly ignorant, yet acts with certainty.

What The Bible Really Says About Homosexuality

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Updated On: 8/22/11 at 10:43 PM

The word is actually "payis"--Hebrew for "corners," the plural version of the word "pe'ah" (corner).

The letter at the end of the word that signifies the plural is pronounced as a "t" by Sephardic Jews from the Mediterranean and as an "s" by Ashkenazic Jews from Northern Europe.

Similarly, with the word "mitzvah" that I used in my earlier post in this thread, Ashkenazic Jews pronounce the plural "mitzvahs" while Sephardic Jews pronounce the plural "mitzvot."

Leviticus 19:27 states: "You shall not round off the corners (peya) of your head." Somehow, this became "You shall grow long curly sideburns that will make you look like an extra from Barbra Streisand's Yentl."


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Barbra (May Her Name Be for a Blessing!) chose to eschew payis when she played Yentl, although when Tovah Feldshuh played Yentl previously, she wore excellent payis!


Tovah as Yentl WITH payis...Barbra as Yentl without

But listen to me, Bethnor, my Grandma Anna, who was an observant Jew when she felt like it--meaning she kept Kosher in her home, but at Hom & Hom Chinese Restaurant on Fordham Road Sunday nights, she enjoyed the Lobster Cantonese, thank you very much, and the Roast Pork Fried Rice--here's what Grandma Anna would say to you:

"Enough already, with your farbissineh kvetching! Stop hokking us a chainik! It's nothing but narishkeit you're spouting--a khaloshes!--and the more you go on insisting you're right, the more everyone agrees that you're wrong. So stop already with the mishehgass before I give you a frosk in the pisk. Come sit, have a glass tea and some halavah. You would be a nice girl, Beth-ela, if you could learn to keep your piskela shut."

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take note, i did not say that religious people told him that, i am saying that is what his RELIGION ITSELF taught him.

If that were true, then everyone would believe their religion in exactly the same way, which doesn't happen because books are inanimate objects that cannot teach themselves nor influence others without human interaction. We are not living in ancient Mayan times where we exist in a self-contained community with the sole knowledge of one religion interpreted one way. We have an enormous amount of freedom and choice when it comes to religion, its interpretation, and the degree to which we'll follow. I get where you're coming from, which is not unlike the anti-gun movement. I'd like to get rid of guns, too. But I also see the truth in the "guns don't kill people, people kill people" meme. The problem is, your argument is far too broad. Instead of anti-gun, you are anti-weapon and that simply isn't possible. In this day and age, in this country, blaming "religion itself" makes no sense.

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And then there's Rabbi Levin and his crazy ass...
NOM Rabbi Yehuda Levin Blames Earthquake on Gays, Claims Direct Link Between Quakes and Homosexuality: VIDEO

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By the way, that so-called rabbi is wrong: The Talmud says NOTHING about "shaking your member."

These people are obsessed by penises.

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I know, right? The Talmud specifically mentions "choking the chicken", but it was in reference to preparing a meal before the Sabbath. You can only blame the religion, not the interpretation, however. Just look at how much poultry had to die in the name of religion.

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I use 'OY' all of the time, but I'm not even close to being Jewish.

Only by insertion...

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An interview with a highly respected, well-known (at least in the UK) and eminently sensible Rabbi who is gay.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/13/rabbi-lionel-blue-interview

The Rabbi's in my hood would eat this Rabbi for lunch.

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