Gun bill background checks fails Senate Vote.- Page 2

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 4/17/13 at 9:35pm

I looked up the Reid thing earlier.

So what gives? In articles like the one I wrote on the Hagel filibuster, the short explanation we give is that Reid voted no “for procedural reasons” or because a no vote “allows him to bring another cloture vote in the future.” But why does it do that? Why is the majority leader required to vote no if a bill is to be taken up again after a failed cloture vote?

As Sarah Binder, a Senate rules expert at George Washington University, told me, it’s not that the majority leader has to vote no. It’s that somebody on the winning side of the cloture vote — in this case, the side voting against cloture — has to file a “motion to reconsider” if the matter is to be taken up again. “I suppose the broader parliamentary principle here is that it would be somewhat unfair to give someone on the losing side of a question a second bite at the apple,” Binder explains. So the rules provide for senators whose opinion has changed to motion for another vote, whereas those whose opinion stays the same don’t get to keep filing to reconsider.

Reid, and other majority leaders before him, have developed a clever workaround: Just change your vote at the last minute if it looks as though you’re going to lose, then move to reconsider. In theory, any supporter of the bill or nomination in question could do the same, but traditionally it’s been the majority leader.



Why is Harry Reid always voting against his own plans? Updated On: 4/17/13 at 09:35 PM

[Marianne2]

Posted: 4/17/13 at 9:46pm

I have an idea. How about we refuse background checks to get jobs in government? I mean, most of them lie anyway.

[Jilani]

Posted: 4/17/13 at 11:27pm

This op-ed by Gabby Giffords is heartbreaking:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/opinion/a-senate-in-the-gun-lobbys-grip.html?_r=5&

And it's utterly delusional to say the nonsupport was "bipartisan".

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 1:38am

I can't believe you guys are surprised by this, this had no hope you every getting past. The self entitlement of some Americas we get on our flights is staggering. I have never meet a group of people who believe that's its all about them!

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 7:49am

What does any of this have to do with self entitlement. I also don't get the whole "this is no big surprise" shrug. Our complacency as a country is what allows things like this to happen. Plus I don't think anyone here is surprised. Being angry isn't the same thing as being surprised.

[suestorm]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 9:11am

Jordan, i will prove to be the bigger person by not responding to your hateful anti-immigrant, misogynist rants. just imagine if someone did the same to you with hateful gay stereotypes.

Updated On: 4/18/13 at 09:11 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 9:59am

I think you're tripping all over yourself to be too PC right now, sue. It's common sense, maybe you just need to be born a gay man to see it, as opposed to a strident gay baiter.

[Kad]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:01am

". just imagine if someone did the same to you with hateful gay stereotypes."

All they'd have to do is search your posting history.

[suestorm]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:04am

again,i will challenge you for the upteenth time, on your wild untrue accussations... please cut and paste where i have done that. as before you cant cuz i havent.

you and jordan though have called me on numerous times a hooker, a prostitute, a slut, an illegal alien and my dad a criminal

[Kad]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:08am

You've challenged me to do it once. And I did it, that one time- no, I did not cut and paste, but I specifically cited posts that could be easily found in that SAME THREAD. I don't have the time right now to sift through your endless stream of garbage to find the particular piece of garbage I need.

[suestorm]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:10am

you didnt cut and paste cuz you took things out of context. sorry, try again.

[Kad]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:14am

Uh, maybe you need to retake English 101 at Fancy Private School.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:15am

Sorry maybe mommy no have information right when come here meet nice man end up sell kitty cat on street for no many dollar. Hard for Russian doll be pass around like a joint to group of men throw dollar bill at her, come in hair oh no just wash yes no?

[suestorm]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:25am

^^ thanks Jordan for again illustrating my point about your and Nemos misgynist anti-immmigrant rants

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:26am

I don't think Sue is ever going to change her ways. I feel like she's become the BWW master troll with all the attention she gets. Too many threads have been hijacked by arguements with SueStorm.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:29am

Very welcomes, Sue. I nice to you since little girl maybe not know who daddy is when mommy take it from so many mens in so many day. Hard to live maybe sad time yes no?

[suestorm]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:30am

Erik, you should address that to those who attack me, forcing me to defend myself.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:32am

Maybe Sue should go where she wanted not someplace nobody like her yes no? Maybe she feel more comfortable in bread line?

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:51am

Sue this will be the last time I respond to one of your posts because I've taken the bait too. But I believe you know exactly what you're doing. When you throw in a phrase like "the war of aggression" you know it's going to stir the pot. And when people respond you claim to be attacked. It's textbook troll behavior. But I'll admit, you get a lot of people to respond to you (including me sometimes), so you're definitely good at what you do.

Updated On: 4/18/13 at 10:51 AM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 10:54am

Sue good at getting men to jump on her. Learn from prostitutshka mommy how.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 11:04am

One thing you can say about Jordan, he's not being "too PC."

[suestorm]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 11:10am

Namo, Jordan, ive dealt with bullies like you my whole life. Every one of them has been insecure and unloved by their families so they get their rocks off by terrorizing who they think is weak. I actually feel sorry for you guys.

Updated On: 4/18/13 at 11:10 AM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 11:11am

Lol.

Updated On: 4/18/13 at 11:11 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 11:13am

Jordan and I are not the same person. I have never bullied you. Unless you define "responding" as "bullying." You seem to lack common sense.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/18/13 at 11:15am

Little girl play victim pick on people get mad at response say she now bullied. Poor girl say she in school all day post here. Teacher no take phone away maybe not really in school?