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How do you count 3/4 cut time?

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#0How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 3:53pm

For all you...music theory people out there. I just can't for the life of me figure it out. I've got to figure out Berstein's "On the Waterfront" and the beginning is conducted in 3/4 cut time at 96 = half note. Help me out here?


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#1re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 3:58pm

one beat per measure.

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#2re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 4:00pm

Ah, I see. Thanks bway.


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Updated On: 8/23/05 at 04:00 PM

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#3re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 4:07pm

Okay. Just kidding. 'Nother question. Some measures, there are 2 beats, while others there are 3?


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#4re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 4:25pm

If it's cut time, the half note should get the beat, correct? That would be 3/2 time and 2/2 time where the half note remains a constant tempo. Is that what you are trying to say? Technically though, "cut time" refers only to 2/2 time.


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#5re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 4:29pm

Yeah... i was wondering that. it CAN"T be 3/4 cut time. It's either 3/4 time or 2/2 time. C refers to common time which is 4/4, and cut is 2/2..... pretty sure. (reaches waaaayyy back into the recesses of music theory in her brain. OUCH!)


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#6re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 4:56pm

That is correct - 3/4 is beat either in ONE or in THREE. Cut time is based in 4 - a different time signature all together.


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#7re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 5:42pm

Yes, I know and I know what cut time and common time are...but..I think what it means is that...it's 3/4 time but the half note gets the beat? I've never come across this before.

It has the cut time symbol and then the 3/4 time signature.

And I can follow the music by listening to it, but I don't know how to count it out because some measures have three beats whereas some have four beats. Does it mean it switches off from 3/4 time to cut time every other measure?


If it were truly 3/4 "cut time", wouldn't the beat be to the dotted half note?


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Updated On: 8/23/05 at 05:42 PM

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#8re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 5:44pm

Maybe it means the DOTTED half note gets the beat...that would make sense.


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#9re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 5:45pm

That's what I thought, but there's no dotted half note marking anywhere.


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#10re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 5:57pm

Good lord - this must be why I never could learn to read music. Its so like math. And I have no aptitude for that at all!


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#11re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 9:05pm

Sounds like it's one measure of 4/4 (the cut time marking) followed by a measure of 3/4..and this pattern is consistant throughout the piece. Disregard the "cut time" mark" and just count the quarternote, realizing that with a cut time marking, you should be feeling the beat in 2 rather than 4.

I would count it.. 1 and 2 and 1 2 3, 1 and 2 and 1 2 3...

does that make sense?

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#12re: How do you count 3/4 cut time?
Posted: 8/23/05 at 9:13pm

Set your metronome to half note=96.
As it clicks, subdivide it into two...then take three beats, subdividing each and counting 1,2,3,4,5,6.
You'll have two measures of 3/4 time and that is how you count it.
So, when you have a 3/4 followed by a cut measure, you'll be in the same tempo but only count to 5.
It's easier to show it to you than to explain it by writing, but I hope that makes sense.


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