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Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire

Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire

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PalJoey
#1Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 11:31am




According to the Jewish Daily Forward, this would be a permanent cease fire worked out in Egypt by 5 representatives from the Palestinian authority, 4 from Hamas, 3 from Islamic Jihad and 5 Israeli leaders who are presenting the agreement to their security cabinet.

The details are very interesting. Basically, Hamas gets everything but the seaport and the airport, which Egypt and Israel objected to because they could be used for importing weapons, and Israel gets everything short of the "demilitarization," which would have caused its own set of problems.



JEWISH DAILY FORWARD: Israel, Hamas Near Long-term Deal on These Terms


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tazber
#2Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 11:42am

please please please let this hold.


....but the world goes 'round

Gothampc
#2Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 11:49am

This won't bring peace.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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Jane2
#3Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 11:59am

^ voice of optimism. But maybe it'll save a few lives in the meanwhile.


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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YouWantitWhen????
#4Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 12:01pm

Maybe it is a start.

Gothampc
#5Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 12:07pm

"^ voice of optimism. But maybe it'll save a few lives in the meanwhile."

You don't get it. These people aren't interested in land. They are interested in annihilating every Jew on the planet.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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Kad
#6Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 12:08pm

The optimist in me sees the glass half-full. The pessimist in me sees the glass blown apart.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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Addison D.
#7Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 12:17pm

It seems to me that Peace can't take root when missiles are being launched and hostages taken and people killed.

Anything that brings peace--as in quiet, a sustained break in the cycle of violence--at least makes it possible for people work towards Peace.


You think, what do you want? You think, make a decision...

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Jane2
#8Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 12:37pm

"You don't get it. These people aren't interested in land. They are interested in annihilating every Jew on the planet."

"I" don't get it? YOU don't get it.


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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PalJoey
#9Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 1:05pm


This won't bring peace.

Yes, but as the punchline to the old Jewish joke goes, "Maybe, maybe not. But it vouldn't hurt, vould it?"



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Jane2
#10Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 1:18pm

Yeah, he didn't get it. It probably won't bring eternal peace, but as I said, in the MEANTIME, it might save some lives. dumkopf!


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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madbrian
#11Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 1:33pm

While this is not a lasting peace, it is a necessary first step in the right direction.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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#12Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 1:40pm

The only necessary step is the demilitarization of Hamas. How Israelis can stomach a "peace" agreement when two of the involved parties were formed solely to obliterate the Jewish people is beyond me.

Gothampc
#13Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 1:51pm

"Yeah, he didn't get it. It probably won't bring eternal peace, but as I said, in the MEANTIME, it might save some lives. dumkopf!"

No, you're the one not getting it. Let's go over this again. These are a group of people who want to wipe Jews off the face of the Earth. It's not about peace, it's not about land, it's about how many Jews can be wiped out.


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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PalJoey
#14Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 2:03pm



As it says in the Talmud, "Today they want to wipe out the Jews--maybe tomorrow they won't want to anymore. Ya never know..."

And anyone clamoring for "demilitarization" should actually READ the article in the Forward. There are fascinating reasons the Israelis are NOT insisting on it.



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#15Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 2:11pm

I already read it. There are reasons the delegation, in particular, have backed away from it; saying it's the "Israelis" is not accurate since some members of the security cabinet strongly disagree with that decision.

As it says in the Talmud, "Today they want to wipe out the Jews--maybe tomorrow they won't want to anymore. Ya never know..."

Seeing as the Charter they live, work, and operate by declares the obliteration of Israel as one of their main goals, I don't think it's going to happen. Sorry. You're giving Islamic terrorists the benefit of the doubt, which really surprises me.

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Jane2
#16Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 2:17pm

"No, you're the one not getting it. Let's go over this again. These are a group of people who want to wipe Jews off the face of the Earth. It's not about peace, it's not about land, it's about how many Jews can be wiped out."

OH MY GOD. I can't believe this.


<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES

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madbrian
#17Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 2:42pm

The Fox "News" playbook of vilifying "they" can be dusted off and used in many situations.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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PalJoey
#18Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 2:48pm



Seeing as the Charter they live, work, and operate by declares the obliteration of Israel as one of their main goals, I don't think it's going to happen. Sorry. You're giving Islamic terrorists the benefit of the doubt, which really surprises me.

You obviously have never read my posts.



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IAMWHATIAM
#19Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 3:00pm

Well, I think we can all use a little Debbie Friedman and a prayer for peace.
Debbie Friedman Oseh Shalom


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#20Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 3:50pm

I have PalJoey and with regard to any Middle East topic, I have completely and fully supported you. You are on point with everything. Just worried that with so many desperate for peace (on both sides), we'll lose sight of the real issue and hastily compromise with terrorists.... who solely exist to destroy an innocent group of people, provided they're actually following their Charter. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Optimism is good but not if it detracts from the harsh reality.

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PalJoey
#21Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 4:30pm



At our lesbian and gay synagogue (and at many others) we amend the final line of that prayer.

So instead of simply saying "Ose shalom bimromav hu ya'ase shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael v'imru amen" ("May the One who brings peace to the universe bring peace to us and to all Israel, and let us say, Amen"), we say "Ose shalom bimromav hu ya'ase shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael v'al kol yoshvei tevel v'imru amen" "May the One who brings peace to the universe bring peace to us, to all Israel, and to the entire world. And let us say, Amen)."

The entire world. Can I get an amen to that?


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madbrian
#22Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 4:31pm

Amen.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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IAMWHATIAM
#23Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/12/14 at 4:38pm

Amen


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javero
#24Israel and Hamas Close to Long-Term Cease Fire
Posted: 8/13/14 at 4:20am

Amen


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