LOOKING- Page 7

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 2:43pm

I pity anybody who went for that assistant job he offered.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:08pm

I'd rather work for every lawyer in my firm.

I decided to stop taking his opinion on any sort of theater or media seriously after his hissy fit about the Ethel Rosenberg character in Angels. If you went to Oxford and studied theater and still don't understand that she's Banquo's ghost, then you are useless.

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:09pm

"I loved the show. It is the first non-cringe-inducing, mass market portrayal of gay life in America since the civil rights movement took off. Well, the first since Weekend, the breakthrough movie of 2011"

I might agree with him on the last part of this, but only because Weekend was, as he acknowledges, a mere two plus years ago. That's a great deal shorter than since the civil rights movement took off; so it's quite an about-face self-correction on his part.

Without that turnabout, I'd like to ask him if he really meant to suggest that Capote, Brokeback Mountain, The Wedding Banquet, Farewell My Concubine and a large part of Pedro Almodovar's oeuvre are cringe-inducing (ok, not all of these were mass-marketed, but neither was Weekend, an English indie seen perhaps by only a few thousand Americans).

With that turnabout, I'd like to ask him if he thinks that this being the least cringe-inducing portrait of gay life in all of two years is a good way to laud something he obviously intended to highly praise?

It's like saying that Don Jon is the least cringe-inducing straight romantic comedy since the sexual revolution, or at least since Silver Linings Playbook.









Updated On: 1/23/14 at 03:09 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:20pm

Sullivan is hardly the first dyed-in-the-wool assimilationist to bring up the soul-deadening, artistic-impulse-destroying desire for the mythical "just happens to be" gay people.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:23pm

^ But it's such a misread of Looking. Gay identity is central to each of these characters lives. They've chosen to live in San Francisco and have their close circle be other gay men. It's not incidental. It never is.

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:26pm

^GOOD POINT!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:27pm

I guess that's what makes it so funny. Andy has FINALLY found what he's looking for but he hasn't!

Maybe HE needs to write a script that reflects his life and his politics and his boyfriend Helmut or whatever can star in it.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:28pm

I HATE when people say 'Being gay is just one small part of me.'

How does one say that and then look next to them at the person they've chosen to spend their life with??? That's not 'one small part.' That's the whole f*cking thing.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:34pm

Only a person who has repeatedly demonstrated Sullivan's lack of empathy could look at the works he cites as causing him to cringe and not find SOME part of himself portrayed.

[madbrian]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:36pm

Though I'm not a fan of Brooklyn 99, I thought Andre Braugher's character on the show fell into the 'just happens to be gay' category (if there is such a thing).

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:36pm

I LOVE Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:41pm

I've yet to watch. I should Hulu that sh*t.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:49pm

Watch from the first episode.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:49pm

EricMontreal, you mis-read my post. I wasn't criticizing LOOKING and comparing it to SATC. I have no problem with the show. SATC didn't even cross my mind when I was watching it.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 3:50pm

I think he may have meant that for Henrick but clearly had you on the brain cause you're a mocha-choca-lata-ya-ya hot piece of man and don't we all have you on the brain?

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:03pm

L M F P R A O ! ! !

Lord, I needed that!! I've had a rough day!! Thanx you Son-of-a...Robbie J!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:12pm

Holy god I just saw your line about Banquo's ghost, sonofr, and I just want to gay marry it.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:25pm

I'll be honest...I was a little hurt by the lack of recognition. All is better now.

Who's up for a handjob in the park??

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:28pm

No SoRJ, you will never go unacknowledged around these parts.

Now about that handjob....

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:32pm

"And the whole idea of talking to straight guys about the game really kills me."

That was mentioned in the Esquire piece too (which now they have labeled as a joke column people didn't get or some such.) At the moment, and this is jut by chance, I have more close male friends who are straight than gay. Aside from my brother, the only guy I'm close to who pays much attention to watching any sports is gay. Meh.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:35pm

"I might agree with him on the last part of this, but only because Weekend was, as he acknowledges, a mere two plus years ago. That's a great deal shorter than since the civil rights movement took off; so it's quite an about-face self-correction on his part.

Without that turnabout, I'd like to ask him if he really meant to suggest that Capote, Brokeback Mountain, The Wedding Banquet, Farewell My Concubine and a large part of Pedro Almodovar's oeuvre are cringe-inducing (ok, not all of these were mass-marketed, but neither was Weekend, an English indie seen perhaps by only a few thousand Americans). "

Right. And Weekend was not about gay life *in America* (neither were some of the films you mention, but you get a pass...)

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:41pm

Sorry Carlos, the SatC thing was a reply to Henrik. I just find the very idea that Andrew Sullivan relates to Looking (or Weekend even) awfully bizarre, unless he's completely unlike the person he flaunts himself as being.

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 5:56pm

I thought you might have meant that for me Eric. Happy to agree to disagree. But if you had Carlos on the mind because he's a mocha choca Latta mama hottie , we just might have to agree to agree.

Updated On: 1/23/14 at 05:56 PM

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 8:52pm

We certainly do agree to agree there. (And more often than not we do, though this has been a bad few days what with the Looking post, and our disagreement over the Cat on a Hot Tin Roof film )

[henrikegerman]

Posted: 1/23/14 at 9:08pm

That's what makes life interesting!