Also, good point about the "in America," I was so flustered by Sullivan that I didn't even register that qualification; of course it's a qualification that he didn't register either; if he did he wouldn't have referred to "Weekend" as epitomizing a portrayal of gay life in America (which probably explains why it didn't occur to me that he was talking about gay life in America.... the wheels on the bus go round and round...)
I'm so tired of the race card being played. If it was an all black cast, or all latino cast, or all black cast, you'd be screaming about the lack of white people.
I just watched Weekend and I actually really liked it. It seems like every gay movie has to end horribly with someone dying and I liked that this one was at least somewhat ambiguous. It wasn't entirely happy, but no one died you can sort of decide for yourself what will likely happen next.
larrystyles - I think it's a bit early to be throwing around the "f" word just yet. While it's certainly not a hit (yet?), I think it's a bit early for these kinds of declarations. It would be important to know what HBO's expectations are for LOOKING. If they really are expecting it to be another GIRLS -- both in terms of ratings and in cultural impact -- I think they will be disappointed. All signs seem to indicate this is going to be a fairly quiet, understated show and I certainly didn't sense the kind of massive PR machine which accompanies the start of each season of GIRLS. It probably won't have a long run, but I could see it lasting 2-3 seasons -- especially if word of mouth gets strong and it can cast a slighty wider net.
It's ratings are slightly lower than Girls' were (though their final 800,000 or so for their premier counted all the repeat viewings over a week) but far better than their other 30 minute series the past two years, excepting VEEP which aired the same night as Game of Thrones.
It obviously will live or die on if it grows, but I suspect the second episode will do better just because of all the social media coverage (most of my friends didn't even realize it had aired yet.) After that, it will be on how many people watched.
As far as gay cable shows go, QAF US did far lower numbers--but that was over a decade back and on Showtime.
And with HBO, one airing is hardly how to base viewership. It's already been on and will continue to find people.
Time will tell.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."
In Andrew Sullivan's Dissents of the Day, he quotes several people who disagree with his take on Looking, including a very eloquent former Act-Up LA member,
According to Variety, the Nielsen ratings for the premiere of Queer as Folk were a 4.5 household rating and a 3.0 in adults 18-49. It had 1.6 million viewers, not including repeat airings. USA Today reported that its 4.5 household rating compared favorably to a 5.1 household rating for Sex and the City.
According to Variety, the Nielsen ratings for the premiere of Queer as Folk were a 4.5 household rating and a 3.0 in adults 18-49. It had 1.6 million viewers, not including repeat airings. USA Today reported that its 4.5 household rating compared favorably to a 5.1 household rating for Sex and the City.
HBO doesn't really work the way the rest of TV does. By that I mean those ratings are not their only metric. Look at Girls, the show does OK, but ratings are not what keeps it on the air.
My friends gave me their HBO account, and I've been watching everything on the down-low. That is until Richard Plepler recently gave sharing his blessing. So, I feel way less guilty now.