Lost tonight...what do we think?- Page 2

[peach]

Posted: 3/30/06 at 2:55pm

Everything went right over my head last night - including Nadia. Thank goodness for the Sledgeweb site which helps me remember the clues (or realize they were clues or connections in the first place).

It's hard watching season 2 with episodes so far apart. Watching the Season 1 DVD, I could link stuff together so quickly. With so much time between new episodes, I honestly think I get "LOST dumb." Last night's episode was fantastic! Next week looks good too...

And, indeed the fellow playing "Not Henry" is an amazing actor.

Curious - whatever has happened to Michael? Aren't the Lostaways the least bit concerned he's been missing for like - forever (which in the Land of LOST, is probably a day and a half!).

Updated On: 3/30/06 at 02:55 PM

[jasonf]

Posted: 3/30/06 at 7:14pm

peach -- right, remember, it was probably about a week, maybe two tops since Michael left. It's been months for us.

I LOVED this episode. What the hell WAS that map? Notice - it was the exact same shape as the Dharma logo. Is the ISLAND that shape? If the internal circles were stations, then what was the big question mark in the middle??? Why was the map PUT there? My theory - this is ALL a psychological test. I think the castaways are being put through their paces -- the doors coming down was SO random (unless it was intended to coincide with the food drop). Maybe it was therefore meant to test Locke to see if he would still get to the button. I mean, think about it for a second -- if the doors WERE there for the food drop, how could someone inside that room still push the button if the timing wasn't right? Therefore A) the doors were a test to see if they would GET to the button, or B)the two are COMPLETELY unrelated. They wouldn't set up the button for a necessary function and then effectively RANDOMLY (when a food drop comes) make it impossible to push!

[singingwendy]

Posted: 3/30/06 at 9:33pm

Don't forget..according to the Dharma movie...there were always supposed to be two people in the hatch...so one could stay with the button, while one dealt with the food delivery. And don't forget...there was an announcement in the hatch to give you fair warning to get where you needed to be. It just wasn't working properly, and Locke didn't hear it until close to the end.....and of course, that brings up the question of where was the announcement coming from???

[jasonf]

Posted: 3/30/06 at 9:47pm

OK - but then why bother with the doors? What was the POINT of locking the lounge? They seemed clearly to keep someone in - so if one person is stuck in there, and another pushing the button - then who's getting the food? Something is NOT adding up here...

[singingwendy]

Posted: 3/30/06 at 9:57pm

Anyone up for really wracking their brains?
Enlargement of "The Map"

[Mandi Moo]

Posted: 3/30/06 at 9:59pm

The link's not working for me. =/

[singingwendy]

Posted: 3/30/06 at 10:06pm

hmmm...it worked for me..... I don't know...

Also...I wonder how this map compares to the papers Sayid stole from Danielle in the first season....he said they were maps with all kinds of random phrases (including the song "Somewhere beyond the Sea")

[jasonf]

Posted: 3/31/06 at 8:02am

I'm thinking it's not a map at all. The shape is the same as the Dharma logo. Are we to then think the island is shaped like the logo as well? I mean, if it WAS the island, how hard would it to be to just go to the big question mark? I think it's more a brainstorm type thing - trying to make sense of the stations or whatever. I don't think it's meant to be a physical map.

[peach]

Posted: 3/31/06 at 9:52am

My theory on why the doors came down during the food drop is that, with a food drop coming (be it by plane, balloon, parachute, etc.), they lock the lostaways in so the people doing the food drop won't try to get into the hatch and/or so the people in the hatch won't try to escape, knowing there's some civilation or trnsportation nearby? Dunno.

[jasonf]

Posted: 3/31/06 at 11:02am

That's what I thought at first also - but then why separate them from the button? Who's supposed to push it then if the counter hits zero? Something's not adding up...

[jasonf]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:20pm

bump

Tonight's episode - CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY!!!!!

So is Hurley, you know, crazy, again? Is it in his head? Why is Libby in the mental hospital? Why does she not know about the numbers - or does she? Was Dave physically on the island? Was Henry telling the truth about the button? Could this REALLY be the secret and we'll find out years from now - haha!- we TOLD you this was it all along???

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?????

[Mandi Moo]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:22pm

I seriously hope that it's not all in his head, that would be so lame.

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:23pm

Why was Libby in the hospital?! That's the big question for me. I don't believe that everything's in Hurley's head, but I think that what we do need to be looking at is how all of these people are connected (obviously they are) and why they might've ended up on the island.

I think that Henry was telling the truth about the button, but I'm not sure what it means. Psychology experiment? All signs seem to point in that direction.

[children&art]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:24pm

one of my friends said early on that Libby is a pathological liar, when she claimed to be a therapist.

so if she is, that would explain why she was in the hospital, but it would mean that some things were not true:
- she doesnt have feelings for Hurley
- she doesnt think Hurley can change
- she DID see Hurley holding a slipper from Dave

but if she's not, why was she in the hospital?

[jasonf]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:25pm

I can't honestly believe that it's all in his head -- the whole point of this I think was for us to cross another popular theory off our list -- but still, even if that's the case - they need to explain eventually how this all ties in!

[yodamarie78]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:29pm

For an episode that contained so many predictable elements, Dave doesn't exist, Libby was in the hospital too, it certainly was riveting. I'm inclined to think that Henry's telling the truth about the button, but who knows (apparently not God ).

I do think that Dave is all in Hurley's head. But, I do think that Libby must have an ulterior motive. There's been something not right about her from the beginning and Cynthia Watros is the queen of evil!

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:35pm

"Dave" is a Chicago actor. My wife has met him, I think I had met him but could not recall.

Why was Libby in the hospital? I only caught the last ten minutes?

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:37pm

Another very good episode. I was so proud of myself. The commercial before we found out Dave was never real, something clicked and I ran in to tell my mom that. She shrugged, said maybe, and then I turned out to be right--I never predict anything correctly on Lost, so I'm so proud! (Oh Yoda, don't say it was predictable! I was really proud!)

Of course that was taken away when the whole time I thought Libby knew Hurley b/c she was a doctor at that hospital, when really she was a patient. She must at least know about the numbers if Leonard kept saying them all the time.

Guess I'm not good at predictable things. Oops.

I'm not positive, but I too think Henry wasn't lying about the button. I need to go back and watch...psych theory says your eyes go to the left when you lie. Do you think the show would put hints in like that?

This episode reminded me of 2 other medias. One, A Beautiful Mind, probably why I was able to realize Dave wasn't real before I was told..

And two, there was an episode of Buffy like this. She kept waking up in a hospital, was told this whole vampire world was in her head, and she had to kill all her friends to wake up from it. Eventually she caught on to the trick pulled by her enemies and that was done.

But then the episode threw us for a total loop as the end went back to the hospital, with the doctors telling Buffy's parents that they've lost her. Of course the big difference is this could be a theory with Lost, but not something people were expecting of Buffy.

But really before Libby said anything, I knew it couldn't be. Too many things have happened outside of Hurley's knowledge...unless everyone is in like the same hospital in a catanoic state and their subconsciouses have joined together to create this world. I kind of doubt that though.

[Mandi Moo]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:39pm

No one really knows why she was in the hospital. All we saw of it was that one flash at the end.

I'm beginning to think that it's some type of psychology experiment too. But, who knows?

[jasonf]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:43pm

I TOTALLY didn't pick up on Dave not being real -- and I SO should have! It was SO obvious with the basketball game...they got me on that one.

Here's the thing - if it's NOT all in Hurley's head - then what the heck HAPPENED there? Was Dave an halucination of Hurley's on the island? I gotta tell you - the stuff he was saying about the numbers and all - it made a LOT of sense! Like you said, wickedrentq, with the Buffy episode, that twist at the end with Libby being there really got my head spinning.

I'm leaning toward the collective halucination idea myself...

Especially taking the clue of the button being a placebo...

So confused now.

God, I love this show.

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:53pm

Right, Dave's idea seemed workable aside from the factor of things going on the island outside of Hurley, and before "real Dave" escaped, he was missing in the photo. That was definitely reality, so though you could understand why Hurley would believe it.

It could be something so simple that Hurley had to take the medicine to get rid of his delusions, and being on the island without them for a couple months has brought the delusion back. You could say Dave represents a part of Hurley's subsconscious...that...wanted to kill himself? or to desperately believe this wasn't real. But the first seems more likely.

[Mandi Moo]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 10:58pm

I really hope that we find out more about the "others" next week.

[singingwendy]

Posted: 4/5/06 at 11:08pm

I think Dave is Hurley's manifestation of his inability to change some of his bad habits.....most specifically his overeating. Hurley was just about to make a big change, in dumping his private food stash, when more food, and Dave appeared. Therefore, I think Dave was all in Hurley's head...and we won't see him again.

As far as Libby goes, do we know how long ago Hurley, and now Libby, were in the hospital? I supposed that it is possible that Libby was either a therapist before her time in the hospital, or became a therapist afterward, but we haven't gotten a Libby background episode yet....that should be coming soon!

Ok...so what do you think Eko is building? My guess is a church, especially since he's building it with Charlie.....

Oh..and who else loved Jin's reaction to Hurley beating the crap out of Sawyer? It was priceless!

[wickedrentq]

Posted: 4/6/06 at 12:12am

Ohh. I missed the first 5 minutes of the episode. Didn't realize he was about to do away with his private stash. That explains it then.

Oh, I so wanted to say something about that. Plain and simple, Hurley beating Sawyer up was priceless! And then Jin totally couldn't hold Hurley and Hurley falling on top of him. Just great.

[peach]

Posted: 4/6/06 at 1:50pm

Great episode!

I think Dave is in Hurley's head. Deep inside there. Perhaps Hurley is "relapsing."

Libby in the hospital? Interesting! I think we'll be seeing a Libby flashback some time soon to explain this.

I also suspect (and this is just a hunch) that perhaps Locke lost the use of his legs in the "accident" Hurley was referring to in the conversations with his doctor.

Who do you think "Him/He" the guy in charge of the Others is? Not-Henry seems to be pretty afraid of him. Could it be Desmond? Could it be someone we've already met?

And, Sayid is turning into one crazy mean Mofo.
Updated On: 4/6/06 at 01:50 PM