MATCH POINT at the Oscars- Page 4

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 1/13/06 at 5:15pm

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Fatal Attraction: Pregnancy is fake. Mistress is barking (you can tell by her hair). Wife stands by man and shoots crazy lady dead in the bath. Roll credits.

Match Point: Mistress gets pregnant. Hubby is a spineless f**kwit. She understandably gets upset at being dicked around. Ends up dead for it.

Not really the same thing.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/13/06 at 5:20pm

Oh my, those statements notwithstanding, the two films have absolutely NOTHING in common. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. To even mention them in the same sentence is ridiculous.

[PJ]

Posted: 1/13/06 at 5:34pm

The pregnancy in Fatal Attraction was never proven to be a fake. I've seen that movie over twenty times and not once have I ever thought Glenn Close's character was lying about being with child.

And the idea of the mistress getting pregnant and becoming attached is very similar in both movies. That's about it as far as comparison go. You cannot make a movie about a cheating husband and have the mistress get pregnant without inevitable comparison to Fatal Attraction. Kind of like the way you can't make a movie based on a shark without being thought of as a Jaws rip-off.
Updated On: 1/13/06 at 05:34 PM

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 1/13/06 at 5:35pm

Nola wasn't unhinged, she was angry. That's a HUGE difference. I wasn't once sat there going "Oh lord, it's Fatal Attraction."

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/13/06 at 10:41pm

There's where we agree, Popculture boy.

PJ-using your logic, I guess Pulp Fiction and Crimes and Misdemeanors are very similar-someone gets murdered in both of them.

[Benzy92]

Posted: 1/13/06 at 10:48pm

i saw this tonight and absolutely LOVED it.

i agree with Scarlett being a tad overrated, i thought this movie's supporting actress nod. should go to emily mortimer, who was BRILLIANT as the wife!

[broadway86]

Posted: 1/13/06 at 11:54pm

popcultureboy-

I wasn't thinking of Fatal Attraction, though the whole "If you don't tell her, I will" scene did ring a bell. I was thinking more along the lines of A Place in the Sun, a film to which Match Point's plot bears more than a passing resemblance.

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 1:09am

Not quite, Jane. Nice one though.

FOR ME...I thought some of the similiarites to Fatal Attraction were a little to prominent. But that is FOR ME. I'm not talking about everyone else. That's why it's called my opinion.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 1:19am

Yep, we're all posting our opinions, remember that!

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 1:36am

Yeah, but I'm not the one saying you're opinion is wrong, am I?

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 1:47am

Well, I'm not sure-I guess we could get into semantics but I really don't like to have a fight. I guess I'm like popculture boy here with his demanding that Scarlett ruled in this film, and not being able to fathom that others don't see it. I'm not able to believe that you think the two films are similar, so if that's saying your opinion is wrong, then maybe I am. So sorry.

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 2:25am

You should be.

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 7:44am

I have actually managed to fathom why Americans can't see why I love Scarlett in the movie so much, it's all to do with her dialogue.

And 86, you make an interesting point. Spoilers ahead, folks. The whole "if you don't tell her I will" scene and the phone call threats in the trailer were put together to make it seem like Nola was a screaming harridan three seconds away from a corkscrew perm. That made me think of Fatal Attraction and Glenn Close saying "it only takes a phone call!". However, in the film, the scene of her on the phone she's actually hanging up on Chris as he lies (pointlessly and spinelessly) about being in Sardinia and Emily's "who keeps calling?" line isn't spoken in the phone to the silent Nola, but is asked of Chris when Nola won't stop phoning to try and tell him she's pregnant (with a child conceived out of pure passion, no less). Consequently, thoughts of Fatal Attraction could not have been further from my mind while actually watching the film. And while ultimately I suppose both mistresses meet the same fate, it's for wildly different reasons and with massively different endings.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 10:58am

Why are you taking two films of entirely different genres and say they are similar? Fatal Attraction can be considered a horror movie. I heard screams in there that I hadn't heard in years. In that film, Alex is seriously mentally ill and is out to harm Dan and his entire family in any horrific way she can. This is what the film is based upon. This is not the case in Match Point whatsoever. In Fatal, Dan is blissfully happy in his marriage and his dalliance was a common one that many men make in a weak moment. This is hardly the case in Match POint where the guy is unrelentlessly pursuing the girl. I could go on but I have to go to work. Again, the two films are not alike except for some very common threads which are used over and over in films.
My opinion and no, I'm not sorry for it.

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 11:35am

Two films. One or two similiarities. My opinion. End of story.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 11:41am

"One or two similiarities."

That much I can agree to. Have a great day.

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 11:45am

You too, %($*&!

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 11:48am

Awww, c'mon.

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 11:51am

You come on. You picked a fight with me simply because you thought my opinion was wrong. I was only reciprocating your arrogance and immaturity. Deal with it.

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 11:58am

Jane2 has been many things on this thread, but arrogant and immature aren't two of them.

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 12:00pm

Take care, PJ.

Oh, and I mean it. I hate fighting-I thought it was a heated debate. If your hurt, I'm sorry, bye.

Updated On: 1/14/06 at 12:00 PM

[Jane2]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 12:01pm

Thanks, Popculture boy (but wait til you really know me, LOL!)

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 12:09pm

You're so right, pop. I know a ton of pleasant and mature people who pick fights with strangers on message boards over something completely ridiculous.

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 12:22pm

I didn't see it as picking a fight at all. Jane2 was merely disagreeing with your Fatal Attraction point and saying so. Which isn't saying someone's opnion is wrong nor is it fighting. But I'm not about to turn this thread in to fight.

Let's talk about Scarlett some more instead.

[PJ]

Posted: 1/14/06 at 5:38pm

Bland.