Michael J Fox: Be Healed- Page 9

[kjklo]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 12:25pm

What are the other polls that you're referring to, and what do they indicate?

[iHeartMyGeek]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 12:31pm

First of all, are you a personal friend of John Kerry? Yeah, I didn't think so. So how would you know what he "still thinks"?

Second of all, obviously the polls YOU are looking at are just as deluded as the ones that WE are. If polls are so often wrong, where are you getting your information? The dreamlandd in your head?

[Dakin]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 12:31pm

Michael J. Fox in an advertisement for a Democratic Senate candidate who supports embryonic stem cell research.

Re: Oct. 28 editorial cartoon, showing Rush Limbaugh shouting into a radio microphone, with a technician saying, "He must be off his meds."

There is no doubt that the U.S. radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh's direct style and his own past medication issues make him an inviting target. And although he was, in all probability, technically inaccurate in accusing Michael J. Fox of "acting" in his recent political TV ad supporting a Democratic senatorial candidate, Mr. Limbaugh may have been very close to the mark.

As a neurologist with a large number of Parkinson's disease patients, my impression of the video is that Mr. Fox displayed the poorly controlled "choreo-athetotic" movements seen when advanced Parkinson's patients take their medication to turn "on" and emerge from their natural state of rigidity and rest tremor. At some point after taking a pill, a patient's voluntary movements are freed up, without much excess involuntary movement.

The issue, then, is one of timing. Indeed, a few days after his political ad came out, Mr. Fox appeared at a Democratic event in Chicago with his movements under control, a situation he called "ironic." Strangely, however, he seemed unable to appear controlled for a pre-taped TV ad a few days earlier, when the appropriate timing should have been easier, given the possibility of multiple "takes." Lest this all sound too cynical, consider that Mr. Fox admitted in his 2002 autobiography to going off his medication to appear more disabled before a 1999 Senate subcommittee appearance.

Democratic party manipulation appears to go much further. In offering Mr. Fox as a spokesman, they have clearly hoped he would cut a sympathetic figure immune from criticism, and the faux outrage at Mr. Limbaugh's comments seems to confirm this. While Mr. Fox deserves sympathy for this medical plight, he must assume full responsibility for his words and actions when he chooses to enter the political arena. By politicizing a medical issue, he is, in effect, saying that anyone who cares about new treatment hope for Parkinson's disease patients must vote for the the Democratic candidate in Missouri -- not coincidentally, a pivotal state in the upcoming election to control the U.S. Senate.

This is not only unfair, but absurd. Everyone, including Republicans, supports the many new treatments emerging for Parkinson's patients that promise far more immediate application than do stem cells. Republicans also support stem cell research when it comes from ethically sound sources, such as adult tissues and umbilical cord blood. Ironically, these forms of stem cells have had greater success to date than the embryonic-source stem cells lionized in the Michael J. Fox TV ad.

[kjklo]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 12:52pm

Source, please.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 1:21pm

Very nice try Dakin, I commend you on your attempt to yet again not answer the question.

The question is and always has been did Michael J. Fox PURPOSELY over-medicate when he shot the ad endorsing McCaskil. That's the proof that we're looking for here. Not someone else's opinion, you've already given yours many times, unsubstantiated as always. Fox himself said that the meds kicked in too hard. But, he's never said that he over-medicated on purpose. There's a huge difference, and one you can't seem to wrap your mind around.

And yes I do have access to other polls. And unlike you. I credit the source of my information.

Updated On: 10/31/06 at 01:21 PM

[Dakin]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 1:28pm

WOW. It just keeps getting worse for Fox.
Fox is a Fraud

[kjklo]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 1:40pm

So it's a letter to the editor of a Canadian newspaper from a Toronto physician who opposes embryonic stem cell research. Kind of interesting, I suppose, but not terribly relevant, is it?

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 1:46pm

Great Source, thanks for sharing Dakin...

Very similar to Bill Frist's diagnosis of Terry Schiavo done via video tape.

Now back to the question at hand. Have you come up with any proof that Fox purposely over-medicated?

Updated On: 10/31/06 at 01:46 PM

[Dakin]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 2:20pm

Was he over medicated?

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 2:39pm

Oh Dakin, four days...four long days. How many more is it going to take before you admit that you have no proof that Fox purposely over-medicated?? How many times must someone go over this with you to make you understand the question.

The question is not if he was over-medicated. Fox stated as much when he said the medication kicked in stronger than he thought it would.

The question has always been if he purposely over medicated. Which was something you stated earlier in this thread. Since that time I and others have asked for proof of your accusation.
For four days now we've been waiting for that proof. Proof that you obviously don't have. Proof that would make this thread end. Proof that would prove you not to be a liar.

Do you understand the difference now?

It's not hard, really.

To remind you of your accusation, here it is:

"You know, he has now admitted using "too much of his medicine" to produce the effects we saw in the ad.

What a crock of sh**."

Updated On: 10/31/06 at 02:39 PM

[Dakin]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:55pm

Try as you may, you are not good at obfuscating. Take more lessons from John "I hate our troops" Kerry.

Fox was over medicated.

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:59pm

No no no, this isn't about John Kerry, this is about MJ. Now how many meds did he take that day Dakin?

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:01pm

No Dakin, I've been clarifying, you must really buy a dictionary. What you've been doing is obfuscating by, dodging and weaving,evading, changing the subject and not answering the very simple question of where's the proof?

WHERE'S YOUR PROOF? Nothing obfuscated in that question.

Updated On: 11/1/06 at 05:01 PM

[Dakin]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:01pm

Too many by his own admission.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:04pm

""You know, he has now admitted using "too much of his medicine" to produce the effects we saw in the ad.

What a crock of sh**."

Once again I have to reacquaint you with your own words.

Where is your proof that he took too much of his medicine to produce the effects we saw in the ad. WHERE"S THE PROOF Dakin?

Updated On: 10/31/06 at 05:04 PM

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:06pm

You keep saying that he has over medicated for the commercial, but you still have not given us any proof. Are you a doctor that works with people with Parkinsons? Is that how you can tell? Where did he admit that he took more meds on the day of the shoot of the commercial? It’s a really simple question.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:10pm

Even the simplest question is difficult for him to answer. It's now been four days since he was first asked for proof. Four days he's been, to use his word "obfuscating". And for four days we haven't gotten an answer. I'm guessing that this will probably go on forever, since there's no real chance that he has any proof to back up his clearly false statements.

Updated On: 10/31/06 at 05:10 PM

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 5:16pm

ob·fus·cate (bf-skt, b-fskt) Pronunciation Key
tr.v. ob·fus·cat·ed, ob·fus·cat·ing, ob·fus·cates
1.To make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to perceive or understand: “A great effort was made... to obscure or obfuscate the truth” (Robert Conquest).
2.To render indistinct or dim; darken: The fog obfuscated the shore.
3. Dakin

[Dakin]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 10:05pm

Maybe Michael J. Fox and John Kerry can make a last minute commercial to "help" the libs.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 10:17pm

Or maybe Michael J. Fox could do a video for you saying that he over-medicated on purpose. Of course it ain't gonna happen and so, you will remain a man in search of credibility.

DAY 5 approaching and still no sign of the truth from Dakin.

[Dakin]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 10:23pm

Is kerry now saying that he was over-medicated, and that Fox gave him the stuff?

Surely, Kerry had to overly medicated to make such a statement.

[JustAGuy]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 10:33pm

So clever, so cute and so not to the point.

Try as you might to turn this thread into something else, you simply can't. I won't let you. I'll keep posting on your lack of credibility and your total dishonesty until you either say you don't have proof to back up your statements, or until you actually do come up with the proof.

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 10:56pm

*twittles tumbs* Still waiting!

[ShbrtAlley44]

Posted: 10/31/06 at 11:12pm

Pippin, Fox actually is quite a good actor. But yeah, there's no way in hell to accurately fake those tremors.

Posted: 11/1/06 at 12:22am

if stem cell research could lead to more effective botox, we wouldnt even be having this conversation.
lets see what the L.A.U.R.A.BOT2006 has to say