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#26

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The real argument here is what you think equality means. A mandatory amount of black people cast per show or a mandatory amount of black people invited per role?

Thanks just the same but YOU don't get to declare what "the real argument" is. NOBODY ANYWHERE said anything about mandatory ANYTHING except you. And then you argue against it but nobody said anything about that.

Because "not looking at race" clearly doesn't satisfy you enough.

Impossible. Would only be slightly possible with blind auditions. You don't see those happening anywhere, do you?


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#27

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On The Voice!

Why does anyone engage with this troll?


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"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS

#28

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FindingNamo said: "

Impossible. Would only be slightly possible with blind auditions. You don't see those happening anywhere, do you?"

Ok, then what's your solution? To invite 12% of black actors for every role?

#29

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Solution? You really do have a singular way of looking at the world. As if there is a solution to such a complicated issue.... One that's SO hard for you to contemplate that you just throw up your hands and say there is no issue at all!

Luckily, the realization is dawning that if decision makers and voting bodies are majority white, that bias will be seen in casting decisions and awards recipients.

Fortunately, creatives are learning that more and growing audiences want to see reflections of the actual world in their performing arts. In some instances they have made commitments to diversifying their behind-the-scenes staffs and many audience members are noticing when the same old all-white choices are trotted out. NOBODY anywhere has proposed the "solution" of quotas you and only you have mentioned.

But me? I'm finding myself less and less interested in spending my money on all-white anything. Sorry, "She Loves Me."


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#30

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FindingNamo said: "But me? I'm finding myself less and less interested in spending my money on all-white anything. Sorry, "She Loves Me."

Then you are the problem. The one thinking in race.

There will always be all white anythings. Should white people also not spend their money on a show like Dreamgirls?

You choose to separate.

#31

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"Well, you either want representation compared to the population or you don't. It seems to me that less gets you upset? Or more gets you upset? Sounds like a double agenda."

You began this thread by suggesting that representation compared to the population was not only acceptable but satisfied in reality.

We disabused you of the notion that it is in any way satisfied in reality

You responded by accusing us of going beyond your initially posed insistence on proportionality and of advocating for some quota-based system of casting.

Wanting fairness and general proportionality in casting is one thing.
Wanting quota-based systems of casting is quite another.

Obviously you must agree with that. Because you began this argument by crusading for the former and ended it with condemning - and wrongly calling us champions of - the other.

So if there's a double standard at play here, you are the virtuoso. Not us.

#32

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henrikegerman said: "

Wanting fairness and general proportionality in casting is one thing."

The only fairness in casting would be 12% black people auditioning versus 88% other races.

And yes, that means a very small chance that a black person gets the role.

Updated On: 2/24/16 at 09:56 AM

#33

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There are too many Quixotes fighting this windmill.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#34

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Kad said: "There are too many Quixotes fighting this windmill."

^ ^ ^ Great post! I am soooo stealing that for future use!

#35

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How I choose to spend my money is not part of the problem. I don't owe all-white shows my time or money. If I lean towards inclusive shows over all-white shows, I am picking the opposite of "separation."

Also, Henrik completely illustrated why your phony constructs are phony, why what you're doing in your posts is actually quite different from what you say you're doing in your posts. We get it, you don't like black people. You feel stupid when the Schuyler sisters repeat their names. And you HATE it when the cast of the hottest ticket in years sings, because you think they think they "look cool."


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#36

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He knows he's a phony.

He just declared people were autistic because they blocked him.

He thinks there should be cages at the Richard Rodgers to handle the audience.

He can go on and on for days because he is just pulling stuff out of thin air.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#37

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It can't survive if you don't feed it.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson
#38

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That's kind of like when you're little and they tell you that a bully will you leave you alone if you ignore them. Not to mention that it's impossible to get everyone on this board to uniformly ignore someone.

#39

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I disagree, PRS. It’s not the ignoring, per se, though that’s one vehicle often suggested to achieve the real end, which is taking their power away. In real life, it’s tricky to strip a bully of his or her power because it’s usually bolstered by groupthink or a cabal of minions. (Which is also why bullies are much more prevalent/threatening in younger age groups.)

In my experience with Internet trolls, since they’re almost always lone wolves, in the vast majority of cases where I’ve seen them be uniformly ignored, they go away – usually pretty quickly, too. The expression “Don’t feed the trolls” is accurate because feeding is what they need.

Dave 19 isn’t a bully. He’s a troll. Literally all he’s done since arriving is dangle bait, which has been repeatedly gobbled up and has brought the board to suestorm-level consumption territory. I wish I could buy the crusader mentality, but I don’t. A theoretical person happening across this thread in danger of taking this troll’s twisted logic as gospel – well, if they didn’t come to their senses about it after 5 posts, it’s probably reasonable to assume they’re not going to come to their senses about it in 25 or 50.

But I don’t disagree with your last point, and I suppose there’s the rub.

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Updated On: 2/24/16 at 02:54 PM

#40

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But, again, that puts the onus on the people who can not stand the spew rather than on the spewer. Which rhymes with sewer.


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#41

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Oh Namo *giggle* you had me at "onus"....!

#42

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And I’m saying that engaging him has allowed him to spew an ocean that’s repeatedly bumped-stuck at the top of the boards when, with no or very minimal engagement, he’d have spewed a couple droplets that would have disappeared into oblivion months ago.

Having now made more than two posts in relation to this idiot, I already feel like I’ve contributed more to the problem than my conscience permits, so I should return to the peanut gallery now. I wish you all luck.

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Updated On: 2/24/16 at 04:42 PM

#43

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Dave, The Racist Intern.

Where's Dave Letterman when we need him?


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#44

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8A58Bpbo1A


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
#45

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FindingNamo said: " If I lean towards inclusive shows over all-white shows, I am picking the opposite of "separation." "

Stop living a lie.

Picking on race is per definition separation.

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