Posted: 1/19/13 at 11:19am
Do you imagine that Mitt Romney had access to intelligence on Al-Qaeda activity in Mali that was superior to the intelligence available to President Obama?
Are you trying to suggest that--presented with information about Al-Qaeda activity in Mali--President Obama or the Obama administration somehow intentionally failed to act on that information?
Or are you simply trying to make some vague connection between Mitt Romney's fitness to lead this country and the partisan rhetoric of some random, left-leaning web-site?
There are highly-partisan websites and blogs of all stripes to be found on the Internet. As a Progressive Democrat it is not my responsibility to endorse or explain every obscure, irresponsible blogger who hapopens to support the same candidate whom I support.
Mitt Romeny was doubtless "right" or--more accurately--"correct" about many things. That did not make him the right person to lead our nation.
Posted: 1/19/13 at 11:26am
Posted: 1/19/13 at 11:35am
He can make better use of his time demonizing people and uttering phrases like " just ask the rich to pay a little bit more" etc etc.
Posted: 1/19/13 at 11:48am
Nice try at deflection, though!
"Mitt, you do know that most of America think Mali is one of Obama's daughters, right?" From Bill Maher's Twitter page the day after the debate
Mitt knew about Mali before you did
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Posted: 1/19/13 at 1:55pm
Similarly, the Republican administration of GW Bush saw a report about imminent terrorist activity, written in the summer of 2001, and took a similar wait-and-watch approach, but with far more disastrous results.
If we retaliated in advance of every reported terrorist threat, we would be acting on a lot of inaccurate reports.
It is up to our leaders to decide what action to take. If you judge Obama harshly for not taking action in Mali--and what in God's name do you think he could have done?--then you must judge George Bush even more harshly for ignoring the report entitled "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US."
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Posted: 1/19/13 at 3:31pm
I am not going to ask Mr. Roxy to back up his bizarre statement that President Obama views foreign policy as a distraction as he drops lies like that and then never ever backs it up. I am hoping you are not another Republican who makes stuff up and runs.
And when i say Mr. Roxy never ever backs up his lies I mean never never never never never never never never never never never never never ever.
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Posted: 1/19/13 at 3:47pm
Define what the situation was during the debates and how it is different today.
One paragraph, no more than 200 words.
I defy you.
Posted: 1/19/13 at 7:06pm
As if it makes up for the loads, upon loads of incorrect things the GOP spouts off on a regular basis.
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Posted: 1/19/13 at 8:41pm
He is now in a corner wiping away his tears because he had his ass handed to him on a silver platter. BRAVO Pal Joey!!!
Posted: 1/20/13 at 1:40am
(CNN) -- During Monday night's foreign-policy focused presidential debate, President Barack Obama made the case that al Qaeda in Pakistan is decimated while former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney argued they are on the rise in other countries:
The claims:
Obama: Al Qaeda's core leadership has been decimated.
Romney: This is a group that is now involved in 10 or 12 countries, and it presents an enormous threat to our friends, to the world, to America, long term, and we must have a comprehensive strategy to help reject this kind of extremism.
WHO WAS RIGHT????
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Posted: 1/20/13 at 8:28am
But you're not looking for a discussion--you're just a stupid ninny who is looking for an argument, so I'll leave it at that.
I still DEFY you to explain what I asked 7 posts ago.
So this is my I-dare-ya PART DEUX.
Posted: 1/20/13 at 9:08am
My point is that the left wing media and liberals in general were dismissive and/or critical of Romney's Mali comment, just as they were in regards to his Chrysler-China ad. However, in both cases he turned out to be right.
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Posted: 1/20/13 at 10:42am
Whenever you say "liberals in general," you're always wrong, because IN GENERAL no one believes anything remotely similar to what you describe. I doubt many people on this board even remember the Mali remark from the debates so to gleefully accuse us of being wrong just makes you look like a lunatic.
And stop being tiresome about the "left-wing media," which most left-wing people think is controlled by the right-wing and not nearly left-wing enough. The right-wing media is just as accusatory and dismissive over every single thing Obama and the Democrats do.
But you still haven't explained the Mali situation in 200 words.So I'm still assuming it's a task beyond your intelligence.
Posted: 1/20/13 at 11:14am
Mitt Romney was right on this point, or that--so the f**k what?
Progressive voters don't deny that Mitt had the capacity to process information and reach the correct conclusions occasionally.
You are making a huge deal about "winning" a fight that noone--on either side--is actually fighting.
Mitt was right about something. Yay!! He still was un-fit to lead the country.
Posted: 1/20/13 at 1:07pm
Mitt Romney is a kind, decent, hardworking, intelligent man, yet he was portrayed by the left as a mean, hateful, gaybashing, racist, woman-hating bastard. And the msm carried this message to the American people. SHAME!
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Posted: 1/20/13 at 1:53pm
That's the lie of the year! They let you use the Internet at the psych ward?
Posted: 1/20/13 at 1:59pm
Well, he was proven all of those things,AND he was portrayed by the right as a dupe who didn't even want to run for president.
Again, mikey is just pissing into the wind.
Posted: 1/20/13 at 2:08pm
I hope you can see that--if your point was NOT whether Mitt Romney was 'right'--your choice of a thread title ('Mitt Romney was RIGHT!') was a bit of a red herring, which led to some confusion as to what the thrust of your argument was.
With regard to your argument re: the mainstream media and its response to Mr. Romney's comments about Mali--the evidence you submit for this shameful media conspiracy is a blog-post by--as I said earlier--some random, highly-partisan, left-wing blogger. Again--I hope you can see that this is hardly legitimate evidence of prejudice within the mainstream media. In fact, it is the definition of NOT the mainstream media--an unedited, un-vetted, highly personal opinion. This is an example of both the blessing and the curse of the Internet.
I think we can agree that the News division of the corporate American media conglomerates are imperfect. Too often, a narrative is put in place early on in a race by a given Network--whether left-leaning or right--and all subsequent stories are selected and/or presented in ways that support that narrative.
It is possible that Mitt Romney's comments about Mali or Chrysler or Afghanistan or the Greek Debt Crisis were not given their proper due or recognized to be as prescient by the so-called 'Mainstream Media' as they proved ultimately to be. But I am pretty confident that the same margin of error was uniformly applied to both candidates over the course of the campaign.
Your fundamental error, in my opinion, can be found in your statement that "Mitt Romney is a kind, decent, hardworking, intelligent man, yet he was portrayed by the left as a mean, hateful, gaybashing, racist, woman-hating bastard."
You are falling into the easily-made mistake of confusing Politics with Personality.
Mr. Romney may, in fact, posess all the admirable traits you mention. I am ready to accept 'hardworking' and 'intelligent' right off the bat. I, personally, hesitate to accept 'kind' and 'decent', but those are very subjective traits.
The important point, however, is that his personal 'kindness' and 'decency' are completely irrelevant. Mr. Romney was the standard-bearer and candidate for a party whose platform very specifically and unambiguously endorsed mean, hateful, anti-gay, anti-woman and racist policies.
We were told that Ron & Nancy Reagan "had gay friends". Who the f**k cares? Ronald Reagan died with the blood of thousands of gay men on his hands--men who suffered due to Reagan's criminal refusal to acknowledge the AIDS crisis or mobilize funds to respond to it in a timely fashion. Who can say why this allegedly "Gay-friendly" man behaved in this way? I suspect it was a purely political calculus. The Republican voters were not ready to see government money spent on AIDS. Do I forgive Ronald Reagan because--despite the suffering he caused--he was said to hang out with Gays? F**K NO.
A politician--particularly at the highest levels--must be ready to be held accountable and to be judged for and by the policies that he supports and endorses.
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