NOW, VOYAGER

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NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 4:30am

I recorded this a day or two ago but, for some reason, it cut off and we didn't see the last few minutes.

If you're familiar with the movie, does it end with Charlotte and Jerry in the library, by the window? It looks like they were going to kiss, but we dunno.

Thanks.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:23am

Nothing much. Only one of the most famous lines in film history, accompanied by one of the most famous music scores in film history... in one of the most famous endings in film history.

"Jerry don't let's ask for the moon. We have the stars."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-KGiwGn1d8

(...and next time, use the TCM Thread!)

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:23am

Yeah--but I think they step out onto the balcony for a smoke...

"Jerry, don't let's ask for the moon. We have the stars"

EDIT: You beat me to it! LOL

And how good is Gladys Cooper?

Updated On: 2/1/08 at 09:23 AM

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:26am

I love how romantic that ending was, "back in the day." It makes me cringe a little now, when he lights two cigarettes and hands her one...

...as if to say, "Here, my darling, have cancer with me."

Heavy sigh.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:30am

Any time you cut off Bette, whether accidentally or not, it is grounds for a revocation of your gay card.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:34am

"Dora, I suspect you're a treasure!"

(One of my favorite lines EVER!)

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:34am

I know--I also think it's weird watching people offer cigarettes at parties like a drink...Have a petit four and a Pall Mall!

But who doesn't love those huge lighters and silver cigarette cases?

Plus it's sexy for a man to light a woman's cigarette I think..especially if it's Crawford or Dietrich--strong women who tend to dominate their men.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:35am

Gladys is so brilliant!!! My favorite performance in that film, and that's saying a LOT.

I wonder what the mondern-day equivalent of that last "romantic" gesture would be, if they dared to do a remake. Sharing needles??? It's just kinda awkwardly, anachronistically gross. But in such a kind and loving way.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:37am

That double lighting thing he does is one of the most famous bits in film.
And I read he completely improvised it. Not that it's so amazing that he came up with it, but that something so random and inconsequential can become so influential.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:39am

Well, he does it twice in the film. So, maybe once it was improvised.

And yes, I agree it's romantic and a classic. I'm just having fun with how "dated" it is.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:42am

Hm, best12--the spaghetti scene from LADY AND THE TRAMP is pretty famous too

Now men and women seem to fight each other alot--like in screwball comedies.

Or have a baby together...or enter a dance contest

And if you had cut off Bette while she was still alive, you'd lose alot more than your gay card.

I loved Jan Hooks' impression: "Wallace BEERY sent me a dead owl."

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:45am

"the spaghetti scene from LADY AND THE TRAMP is pretty famous too"

Are you gonna tell me that was improvised too?

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:47am

"Homer, most cartoons aren't done live. It puts a terrible strain on the animator's wrist."

THE SIMPSONS

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:48am

LOL!

Here, lildogs, share a meatball with me.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:53am

This is not the first time I've been asked that.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 9:58am

Yes, but did they light it first?

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 10:11am

You can't have an open flame near poppers...geez this thread degenerates fast!

Poor Charlotte.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 10:25am

Henreid may have improvised the lighting of the cigarettes on set, but it is also specifically mentioned in the novel that he does this for her.

A very interesting book, by the way. It was recently republished. Some significant changes.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 10:31am

My tape of Citizen Kane ended abruptly. What's this about his rosebud?

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 10:33am

It's not the rosebud you're accustomed to seeing. Though they both burn in the end.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 10:40am

"lildogs...I suspect you're a treasure!"

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 11:21am

we watched this on TCM last night. Steve had never seen it (and yes I revoc ked his gay card for a week).

It truly is magical watching it with someone who has never seen it.

I love that movie.....

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 11:54am

One of Gladys Cooper's nicest moments is when BD comes home and tells her that she is not going to control her life. BD is offscreen and Gladys is seen from the back slowly tapping her finger against the bedpost. Very nice touch.

And any moment of the "treasure" Mary Wickes; "what next, Queen Elizabeth?"

Once Mom dies, Dora vanishes. I'd have thought Charlotte would offer her a job at the clinic.

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 11:59am

ANY Mary Wickes moment....now that's fflagg's here, can we talk about Thelma Ritter?

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re: NOW, VOYAGER

Posted: 2/1/08 at 1:02pm

I also love Claude Raines in this movie - the man was an amazing character actor. Did he ever do a bad movie? From his varied roles in Casablanca, Robin Hood, and Mr. Smith Goes to Washington he showed he was one of the most versatile actors at the time.