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#27

Nothing's easier than being for free speech -- today

Since I literally no longer know the meaning of over-used words, I'll say I am pretty sure changing the thread's title is what the kids call "ironic".
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#28

Nothing's easier than being for free speech -- today

From the New York Times today, because, I don't know, they must think the people at Charlie Hebdo deserved to die or something? That's what this means, right? My personal ethical choice would be to have these kind of discussions rather than paste racist, xenophobic (and yet NOT THE CHARLIE HEBDO MOHAMMED CARTOONS!) in this thread to prove I'm not sure what, exactly. But that's just me. And if it's true that makes me against what everybody else is "for", I'm fine with that.

But amid all the “I Am Charlie” marches and declarations on social media, some in the cartooning world are also debating a delicate question: Were the victims free-speech martyrs, full stop, or provocateurs whose aggressive mockery of Islam sometimes amounted to xenophobia and racism?

from An Attack Chills Satirists and Prompts Debate
By JENNIFER SCHUESSLERJAN. 9, 2015


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Updated On: 1/9/15 at 11:42 AM

#29

Nothing's easier than being for free speech -- today

Yeah, I'm not getting the point of the anti-Semitic Arabic cartoons. Muslims/Arabs are racist, too, without retaliation from the Jews, I guess? Though if Israel retaliated every time there was an anti-Semitic cartoon, there wouldn't be a Middle East.

Also, yes- the covers of Charlie Hebdo appear racist/sexist/xenophobic. But having tasteless, shocking covers seems to be their thing, going back to mocking the death of Charles De Gaulle. And they really do take aim at so many varied groups. Seeing as how I've not seen anything of Hebdo EXCEPT their covers- not on a single website have I seen an example of one of their articles or whatever they actually put INSIDE their publication- I can only surmise here. But it looks like Hebdo uses shock value to generate revenue and attention. Which is certainly done here in the US, albeit with different topics because we have different sensibilities. Hell, "offensive" **** is freely posted on this board frequently from longtime members.

I may not be Charlie Hebdo to the letter. But I am Charlie Hebdo.

"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#30

Nothing's easier than being for free speech -- today

I took a good look at their online stuff after they were firebombed. I did this out of solidarity as I once worked at a weekly that was firebombed. And I had the same reaction that I have gotten heat for having against some comics several people hold dear, and echoed by the Comics News repeater quoted in The Times: "that you don’t need to insult people, especially downtrodden people, to make your points.” That's a chain I never like to be a part of as a consumer or in my former creative life.

It's just me. And that's why this thread.


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Updated On: 1/9/15 at 12:08 PM

#31

No more.

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Updated On: 1/9/15 at 12:24 PM

#32

No more.

While we're seeing our side
OUR SIDE
OUR SIDE
Maybe we forgot
They are not alone
No one is alone

Updated On: 1/9/15 at 12:26 PM

#36

It's easy being for free speech -- today

I'm just surprised how when you do this to my threads (and others, I suppose, but those are more fun for me to read) it requires the elimination of all context both of the issue at hand, and the ground I have long staked out for myself about the humor of cruelty. And that allows the implication of, I THINK, that I think it's a-ok to murder people.

By the way, I knew all this about the last issue, I knew all this about Submission. I do like the way you present it as a new discovery that's going to challenge me, like you're Fantod or something.
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Updated On: 1/9/15 at 12:58 PM

#39

It's easy being for free speech -- today

When Namo feels betrayed or doesn't get his way.... ON A F*CKING MESSAGE BOARD (not real life)..... He goes into attack mode. It further proves that he has no life beyond this website and that he desperately seeks to have his intellectual conversations in a virtual world of faceless people because no one will engage him in the real world. Where real interactions and productive conversations are happening every single f*cking day.
#41

It's easy being for free speech -- today

And just as it is my right to point out the pathetic musings of a lonely old man, such as Namo, it is also his right to respond and flame and accuse and label me. I f*cking love free speech and freedom of expression. Carry on, you loveless hag.
#42

It's easy being for free speech -- today

I'm not in attack mode, you stupid horrible detective. Remember when you thought I had no life beyond this message board yet I had my musicals blog, my yahoo column and the fact that I was a beloved professor at a conservatory? I'm just saying you shouldn't be talking about attacks. To quote you, "Just sayin'."
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#43

It's easy being for free speech -- today

BWW is virtual. A blog is virtual. Yahoo! is virtual. Those are all virtual entities and platforms; they are not real or tangible. It is time to live your life in the real world and shut down the computer for a day or two each week. Find something new and productive to do within the community you exist in and benefit from, rather than spend your valuable (?) time posting useless pseudo-intellectual musings on a f*cking message board.
#45

It's easy being for free speech -- today

....AAANNNDDD stop clicking the refresh button with anticipation, eagerly awaiting my next horrid response to try and refute. It is so useless because I could not care one single bit. Step away from the website; step away from the virtual fantasy world; step away from this digital machine. Step out...into the light. Enjoy.
#48

It's easy being for free speech -- today

Remember that time when the headband said that it was never going to post here again and swore up and down that it was finished with this place and then about 3 1/2 seconds later started posting again and never stopped?
#49

It's easy being for free speech -- today

He's not only wrong about me, he's wrong about himself.

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Updated On: 1/9/15 at 01:29 PM

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