November Elections Chat

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 4:47pm

PROP 50 here in California is likely to pass, but polls don't close until 8:00 p.m. Pacific Time.

Not sure what the expectations are in other States where elections are being held today.

 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 5:01pm

The NYC, Virginia, and the New Jersey elections are what people are really focused on today along with California.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 5:24pm

In all my many decades of voting, this ballot was certainly the easiest to complete.  Just one question with one answer:  YES or NO.   The passage of PROP 50 is vitally important not just for the State of California, but for our wonderful country, as well. 

Updated On: 11/4/25 at 05:24 PM

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 5:56pm

I never thought I would utter the words "I hope Cuomo wins" -lol.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 5:58pm

Is there any chance that Mamdani could lose?

I genuinely see him as presidential material. I rue that stupid rule that says not all US citizens are eligible for the Oval Office. Explain to me why that exists again?

I mean, I was kinda glad it kept Arnie out of the race, but in hindsight that silly law shoulda been scrapped a LONG time ago.

Updated On: 11/4/25 at 05:58 PM

[SteveSanders]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 6:35pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Is there any chance of Mamdani could lose?

I genuinely see him as presidential material. I rue that stupid rule that says not all US citizens are eligible for the Oval Office. Explain to me why that exists again?"

Here is a decent explainer:

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C5-1/ALDE_00013692/

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 7:06pm

Thanks, Steve. I guess I can see a smidge of reasoning in there somewhere, but I'm still not convinced.

The current Prime Minister of Canada had triple citizenship at the time of his election earlier this year. He has now renounced the other two, but I don't think any Canadians are particularly concerned.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 7:58pm

Democrat Abigail Spanberger has won VA GOV race.  Congrats!

Updated On: 11/4/25 at 07:58 PM

[kdogg36]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:23pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "The current Prime Minister of Canada hadtriplecitizenship at the time of his election earlier this year."

You mean the douchebag who sucked Trump's****by apologizing for that perfectly reasonable advertisement about tariffs? I have zero patience for world leaders who give Trump exactly what he wants. F*CK Mark Carney.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:24pm

I am particularly rooting for Jay Jones as Attorney General of Virginia. He most definitely speaks my language.

[John Adams]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:29pm

Zeppie2022 said: "I never thought I would utter the words "I hope Cuomo wins" -lol."

and..

Jay Lerner-Z said: "I rue that stupid rule that says not all US citizens are eligible for the Oval Office."

IMO, if Mandami wins, we will have the opportunity to observe the kind of political leader he is before he might be considered a candidate for POTUS. We did not have that opportunity with Trump and look how that turned out...

I also believe in the reasoning behind the requirement for natural born citizenry. It makes sense to me re: loyalty to a single nation. 

If anything, I believe that the mistake of electing Trump has shown that the Qualifications for Presidency need to be stricter, and should require elements like (at a bare minimum):

• a minimum of 2 years experience as an elected official in a lower-level office 
• a collegiate-level degree or minimum 2-year coursework in political science
• a clean criminal record with no felony convictions

As a former teacher, I was not only required to have completed a college degree with a satisfactory GPA, but also obtain certification status in  every/any state in which I intended to to teach. The NCLB Act of 2001 additionally required that I show proof (on a yearly basis) of continuing education, as well as updating any endorsements listed on my license, else risk losing my license/certification.

The irony that we no longer have a US Department of Education because of a megalomaniac/failed businessman/convicted felon bozo is not lost on me. ...Not to mention that some requirements to obtain employment at McDonald's are stricter than those for the office of the presidency.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:33pm

kdogg36 said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "The current Prime Minister of Canada hadtriplecitizenship at the time of his election earlier this year."

You mean the douchebag who sucked Trump's****by apologizing for that perfectly reasonable advertisement about tariffs? I have zero patience for world leaders who give Trump exactly what he wants. F*CK Mark Carney."

 

Well, yeah, him… but his triple citizenship isn't why he gave Trump a BJ. He has never been a US citizen. As well as being Canadian, he was Irish, and British. I was talking only about his eligibility for the office. All US citizens should have equal rights, even morons.

 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:33pm

Democrat Ghazala Hachmi has won VA LT GOV race.  Congrats!

Updated On: 11/4/25 at 08:33 PM

[John Adams]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:37pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "All US citizens should have equal rights, even morons."

Agreed, but "equal rights" does not (or should not) equate to holding the highest office of the land (and arguably the world).

[Zeppie2022]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:39pm

"If anything, I believe that the mistake of electing Trump has shown that the Qualifications for Presidency need to be stricter, and should require elements like (at a bare minimum):

• a minimum of 2 years experience as an elected official in a lower-level office ."

So, you think a General in the military like our 34th POTUS (Eisenhower) did not have qualifications to be POTUS - ok.

Updated On: 11/4/25 at 08:39 PM

[kdogg36]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:50pm

John Adams said: "I also believe in the reasoning behind the requirement for natural born citizenry. It makes sense to me re: loyalty to a single nation."

Well, I think a thought along the lines of "**** America" many times each day, and yet I'm eligible to be elected president. I suspect that, on average, people who (somehow) chose to be American citizens are more loyal than those of us who are stuck here because we were born here.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:50pm

John Adams said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "All US citizens should have equal rights, even morons."

Agreed, but "equal rights" does not (or should not) equate to holding the highest office of the land (and arguably the world)."

Strongly disagree. EVERY American should be eligible for First Citizen. That's what being American should mean - equal opportunity for all. Egalitarianism. College degrees or lack thereof, even age requirements (how did they decide on 35? Were they Company fans?)… all barriers for eligibilty should be removed. The electorate can decide who is fit. In theory.

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 8:53pm

At least the gremlin upvoters agree with me.

[kdogg36]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 9:00pm

I totally agree with you. There's obviously a rational argument to be made for saying that only adults (however defined) should be able to vote, but citizens born outside of the USA, and citizens under 35, should not be relegated to taxation without (potential) representation.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 9:07pm

According to MSNBC, turnout of voters in NYC is the highest since 1969 (reportedly more than 2 million votes)..

Updated On: 11/4/25 at 09:07 PM

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 9:26pm

Democrat Mikie Sherrill has won NJ GOV race.  Congrats!   GO  NAVY !!

[John Adams]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 9:27pm

Zeppie2022 said: "So, you think a General in the military like our 34th POTUS (Eisenhower) did not have qualifications to be POTUS - ok."

That's your interpretation of what you imagine I believe.

I am very well aware that a General in the military has very close ties with, and knowledge of the operation of a POTUS, as well as the operations of other government officials.

If you'd like, I'm very happy to concede that my use of the phrase "at minimum" was not all-encompassing enough. I still hold to my belief that the Qualifications for Presidency need to be stricter.

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 9:34pm

Democrat (DSA) Zohran Mamdani has won the NYC MAYOR race.  Congrats!

[kdogg36]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 9:38pm

It looks like the Democrats are going to sweep tonight, which is encouraging enough. But I think the margin in the Virginia governor race, which is usually much closer, points to a good year in 2026. I hope.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 11/4/25 at 10:11pm

The MAGAts are silent tonight as they should (always) be. The beginning of the end for the vapid c*nts started tonight!